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#294486 - 14/03/02 02:45 PM DIN Output - 2000 XE Radio
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Any idea what the 8 pin DIN connection is for on the back of the 2000 XE stock radio? It looks like it would connect to a cd changer, but this head unit doesn't have the controls. Any ideas?
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#294487 - 15/03/02 10:34 AM Re: DIN Output - 2000 XE Radio
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Here are the pinouts for the 2000SE stereo.


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#294488 - 15/03/02 12:22 PM Re: DIN Output - 2000 XE Radio
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Thanks...I had seen this in an earlier post. On the XE (double DIN height) deck, there is a also a round 8 pin female DIN connection.
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#294489 - 15/03/02 12:43 PM Re: DIN Output - 2000 XE Radio
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You know. I wonder how complicated that would be to turn that into an auxilary input. Just need to find out exactly what 8,9,10 do. I think they are the ones that send the conotroling function to the changer. Just need to see what has to be seen by the deck to allow the input signal to be allowed to pass through.

It does look like there are 2 din plugs on the back.

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#294490 - 15/03/02 01:17 PM Re: DIN Output - 2000 XE Radio
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As far as I know, the deck has no logic. I figure that the plug allows you to piggy back an in-dash 6 disk changer or tape deck that have their own controls (just provides aux input), but there is no physical space in the dash for these components. Go figure...
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#294491 - 19/03/02 08:16 AM Re: DIN Output - 2000 XE Radio
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I bought my radio service manual from www.pacparts.com, it was about $7 +shipping.

This will have the pinouts. The 2000SE was a Panasonic.

Hope this helps

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#294492 - 06/04/02 10:52 PM Re: DIN Output - 2000 XE Radio
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The 2000 XE CD AM/FM radio is made by Clarion. Model No PN-2218H. I can't find it listed on the Clarion site or www.pacparts.com I'll post the pin out once I find it. I'm looking for it myself so I can run my computer sound through the unit.
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#294493 - 11/04/02 10:19 AM Re: DIN Output - 2000 XE Radio
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I just called Pacific Parts and they are researching it for me. I will have an answer in two to three days on if they can get a service manual for me. If I get one I will post the pin out for the din connector here. I really don't want to buy a new head unit if I don't have to. I'm trying to keep this project as cheap as possible.
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#294494 - 18/05/02 12:41 AM Re: DIN Output - 2000 XE Radio
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Well, Pacific Parts finally sent me my service manual. Here are the pinouts for the DIN:


And Molex type ports:



Any ideas on how this works? It states in the manual that the DIN input goes to a cd controller IC and then to the volume controller. It doesn't say anything about how to allow throughput on the speaker channels. I tried just running the sound in, but this doesn't work. There has to be some kind of input from the source that tells the head unit to let the sound through.
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#294495 - 18/05/02 05:08 AM Re: DIN Output - 2000 XE Radio
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If you'll post the part of the schematic that connects to pins 1 and 2 of that connector I can tell you how to get those inputs to work.

That is, of course, as long as the manual is not copyrighted.

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#294496 - 19/05/02 01:59 AM Re: DIN Output - 2000 XE Radio
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The actual schematic is pretty big and those circuits track across most of it. I don't see a copyright warning on it(I know that doesn't mean it isn't copyrighted), but maybe I can describe it and it maybe easier on me. Let me know if this isn't good enough.
number 1 goes through a resistor and then to a transistor(DTC114ES RN1202) that feeds to pin 51 on an IC numbered
IC 501
LC72366-9262
052-1129-00
the pin is labled aux-on.

Number 2 runs through a resistor and then a transistor(DTC114ES RN1202)that feeds to a second transistor(DTC114ES RN1202)which in turn feeds to pin 50 of the same IC. Pin 50 is labled comb1-on.

There are no voltages mentioned. There is an ohm value listed for number 1's resistor, 47k, but number 2's resistor value is listed as 470 1/2W.

Does this help or do you need the actual schematic?
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#294497 - 19/05/02 07:11 PM Re: DIN Output - 2000 XE Radio
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My best guess is that pin 1 is used to turn on the deck from a remote input. Pin 2 is used to tell the remote device that the deck is on.

There are a few conditions that must be met before you can try a test. The 47k resistor must be connected to the base of the transistor (the vertical line) and nowhere else. The emitter of the transistor (the arrow) must be grounded. I don't mean to sound condescending, I just don't know how much electronics you know.

If these conditions are true, no harm will be done by connecting pin 1 to 12V to see if the deck comes on. The key will have to be in the on or accessory position when you do the test.

Good Luck!

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#294498 - 19/05/02 09:42 PM Re: DIN Output - 2000 XE Radio
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ElectroKen, you once again are the Shiznit! That was the cure. I hooked it up to a portable CD player my wife has and ran 12 volts to #1 and slam bam boom, I have music! I just need to find an 8 pin DIN connector that will plug in there and I will have every CD my wife owns(over 100) available for instant listening. Thanks buddy! You have just received another 5 Xterras. I meant to give them to you long ago for the always hot power plug fix. This will be a big hit on the MP3 Car site as well. I was very nervous when I touched that hot wire to the pin I had stuck in the #1. When the letters AUX popped up on the LCD and music poured out of the speakers, I nearly soiled my pants. Thanks again!
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#294499 - 20/05/02 02:42 PM Re: DIN Output - 2000 XE Radio
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Anyone know where I can get a DIN connector to fit that plug. I've spent all morning looking for one on the web and calling the local Clarion dealers. Any ideas?
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#294500 - 20/05/02 09:00 PM Re: DIN Output - 2000 XE Radio
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DIN plug that fits the '00 XE radio AUX in perfectly. Radio Shack Catalog # 274-026. Am wiring it right after I finish this browsing session. YeeeHaaa!
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#294501 - 23/05/02 02:09 PM Re: DIN Output - 2000 XE Radio
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Well, The DIN plug works great...with anything isolated from the vehicle electrical system. The second I plug my computer in, there is a horrible buzzing feedback. I tried reversing the polarity of the sound inputs, thinking maybe I got it backwards, but that just made it worse. It works fine if I plug the comp into an extension cord from the house, but is completely unusable if I use my power inverter as the power supply. AAAHHHGGG!!! Why can't anything be easy? Any words of advice ElectroKen?
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#294502 - 23/05/02 02:26 PM Re: DIN Output - 2000 XE Radio
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OOPS!...I fixed it, forgot to reconnect grounding wire for the inverter when I put it back in the truck. Amazing how important a simple grounding wire can be. [Freak]
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#294503 - 24/05/02 07:09 PM Re: DIN Output - 2000 XE Radio
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can someone tell me how that works? to have Aux in on the stock radio? what part do i need? may be a few pic would help too. thanks!
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#294504 - 24/05/02 08:49 PM Re: DIN Output - 2000 XE Radio
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If you have a stock CD/AM/FM head unit in your 2000 XE Xterra, then on the back will be a plug that looks like this:


Take a set of head phones, cut off the part you put over your ears. Now, got to Radio Shack and get an eight pin DIN connector Catalog # 274-026. Solder the wire from the headphone plug into the DIN Connector using the picture above as a guideline showing where each wire goes. Solder one more wire to the number 1 pin and run it to a 12 volt power source using a switch in between. Plug the DIN plug you soldered all of the wires to into the DIN socket on the back of your head unit. Plug the headphone plug into the accessory you want to run through your truck speakers and turn on the switch. The LCD on your radio will switch to the word AUX and the sound from whatever you plugged the headphone plug in will come out of your speakers and be controlled by your Head Unit Volume, Base, Treble, Fade and Balance controls. Any questions?
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#294505 - 30/05/02 01:26 PM Re: DIN Output - 2000 XE Radio
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Hey all. Well, I'm not exactly a Xterra owner, although I would have liked to be. I was shopping around last year to buy one and when it was all done and over with, it turns out that I could buy a Pathfinder for cheaper than the Xterra (Because of interest rates at the time). However, I am also looking for the CD changer connectors on the back of my stock unit (2001 Pathfinder XE, base stereo), when I came across this post.

It looks like the stock stereo for me is the same as the stereo for the Xterra SE, at least all the connectors look the same and I have some diagrams that say the pins are the same as well. However I noticed that somebody said the stock Xterra SE stereo was a Panasonic, when my stock stereo is a Clarion. So they look similar but I'm not sure if they are.

It looks as though the plugs for power and speakers have the same connections as mine does, and my CD changer plug has the same number of pins and is located in the same spot, but I couldn't find any diagrams for my CD changer plugs anywhere (including Nissan).

Anybody know if this is in fact the same stereo and has the same CD changer plugs? If so, I understand how the connections were made on the 8 pin DIN (Xterra XE), would the connections be made in the same way for this different plug?

Any info would be helpful, thanks all!

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#294506 - 30/05/02 08:55 PM Re: DIN Output - 2000 XE Radio
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Get the model number off of the back of your head unit and then order the service manual for it from Pacific Parts. Once it comes in you can come back here and beg Electroken to interpret schematics like I did. It worked for me! smile
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#294507 - 31/05/02 01:13 AM Re: DIN Output - 2000 XE Radio
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Thanks Xterrian! I actually found this forum from your post of mp3car.com Both forums are very active!

Cheers!

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#294508 - 31/05/02 10:32 PM Re: DIN Output - 2000 XE Radio
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[Deep breath]No problem,I know how agravating it can be to see that DIN plug and just know that you can get sound into your headunit using it and not knowing how.[/Deep breath]
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#294509 - 04/06/02 12:48 AM Re: DIN Output - 2000 XE Radio
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Well, I've searched around for the connector for this cd changer input and I can't find anything except Nissan for $70. Anyone know of a place where you might be able to get this connector? I was thinking a junk yard, but what are the chances that the stereo and cd changer would still be in the car....not very likely.

I would hate to have to solder the wires straight into the pins.

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#294510 - 06/06/02 01:19 PM Re: DIN Output - 2000 XE Radio
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OK, so I can't find this plug, except for the Original Nissan one, but I think I have found another way around. I found some individual molex pins that I will be able to use to connect to the head unit, that way I don't have to solder right to it.

Now, I can't be bothered to buy the manual from www.pacparts.com because once I convert in the US to Canadian dollar difference, play the duty and shipping, I might as well just by a new fricking head unit! So....because the first pict in this post has the EXACT connectors as mine, plus the regular head unit connections are EXACTLY the same, I am going to assume that the CD changer input is the same as well (has the same pins).

Now, what will it take to hook this baby up so I have input thru the CD Changer?? I understand the audio inputs, but what do I need to made the head unit "switch-on" to allow the audio to come thru the input?

I understand how it works with the 8pin DIN, but this 12 pin molex has more connections that I am not sure about. If someone can give me some direction here, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks all, and keep up all the great posts!

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