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#302997 - 12/01/02 11:59 AM Re: Anyone remember how to...
Jeffrey Robinson Offline
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Originally posted by ElectroKen:
The 2001 mod involves modifying the wiring harness and Nissan would have a legit argument for denying warranty service IF the failure was related to the modification.

The 2000 mod is a plug in. If you need warranty service just put the original relay back in and no one will be the wiser.


Not that I am really concerned with the warrenty, but....

I was wondering if it was at all possible to make a relay for the '01 Xterra's for the fog mod. The only reason I ask, is that I'd hate to cut and splice wires and then have a "plug and play" device come out that does the exact same thing (just because I'm being lazy right now, it'll probably pass, but I'm still curious).

and please forgive me if I sound like an idiot, but I'm not the most electrically inclined person in the world (although I like to pretend I am). laugh
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#302998 - 12/01/02 02:33 PM Re: Anyone remember how to...
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Well the person you quoted is the club electronics guru(hence his name)and what you quoted is the only mod that I know of for the 01' From the sounds of it it is not to hard?
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#302999 - 13/01/02 07:08 AM Re: Anyone remember how to...
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Originally posted by Jeffrey Robinson:

I was wondering if it was at all possible to make a relay for the '01 Xterra's for the fog mod. The only reason I ask, is that I'd hate to cut and splice wires and then have a "plug and play" device come out that does the exact same thing.


Unfortunately the answer is no. In the 2000 X modification I took advantage of some peculiar wiring that was unique to that year. Nissan revised the harness to a more conventional (and cheaper) circuit for 2001.

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#303000 - 13/01/02 12:38 PM Re: Anyone remember how to...
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Ok, thanks Ken. I was just wondring.

Now, off to cut some wires....
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#303001 - 14/01/02 08:16 AM Re: Anyone remember how to...
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ElectroKen a BIG to ya! Thank you so much, I have a 2001 and it only took 5 or so minutes to do... I think it took longer to take the 5 screws out. And you have been so cool about everyone asking you questions... and not jumping down their throats... A big 5 rating for ya' and my thanks.

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#303002 - 09/12/02 10:22 AM Re: Anyone remember how to...
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Originally posted by ElectroKen:
I guess I'm in better shape because I'm just old and slow. [img] /ubb/wink.gif [/img]
The cover that gets removed is the gray plastic "clamshell" cover that surrounds the ignition switch and the steering column. Don't mess with the actual steering wheel cover (where the horn switch is) because the air bag is in there too.
Attaching to the described purple wire will allow the fog lights to operate any time, regardless of any other switch position. Just remember to turn them off.

Using the parking light method, connecting the red/black to the blue/red...does this allow the fog lights to work with the parking lights, low beams, and high beams?

Thanks,
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#303003 - 09/12/02 07:49 PM Re: Anyone remember how to...
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electroken, i had serious problems when trying ur method in my 2001 xterra. first i found the 2 wire piece with the red/black and red/something else wires and the 8 wire piece with the blue/red and the purple wire. However, when i used ur method and took the red/black wire and hooked it up to the blue/red wire i got no fog lights during any operation (when using no lights, parking lights, low beams, or high beams). So, then i tryed the red/black wire with the purple wire and when i did this i got no fog lights during any operation (when using no lights, parking lights, low beams, or high beams). But when the red/black wire was hooked into the purple wire, and i used my parking lights the right front headlight came on (even when the 8 wire piece wasn't connected). So, then i hooked the red/black wire back up the way it was and used the red/something else wire. When using the red/something else wire, i hooked it up to the blue/red wire, this gave me the use of fog lights during paking lights, low beams, and high beams; but the fog light switch doesn't turn the fog lights off. The fog lights just automatically come on with the parking lights, low beams, and high beams. So, then i took the red/something else wire and the purple wire hooked them together and this turned the fog lights on all the time (with no lights, parking lights, low beams, and high beams). But i still couldn't use the fog light switch, the fog lights just came on right when i hooked them to the purple wire eventhough the 8 piece wire connector wasn't connected. So do u have any ideas on how to get the switch working or what i did wrong.

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#303004 - 10/12/02 03:01 AM Re: Anyone remember how to...
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Originally posted by Toy4x4Guy:
Using the parking light method, connecting the red/black to the blue/red...does this allow the fog lights to work with the parking lights, low beams, and high beams?

Thanks,
This thread has become pretty confusing. The clearest explanation is my post from 5/21/01 at 06:21. Several people have had success using that post.

I should add that this method works with the 2001 and 2002 but NOT the 2003 X.

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#303005 - 10/12/02 03:05 AM Re: Anyone remember how to...
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Lovethax,

I need to wade through your post for a while to figure it out. I haven't heard of a 2001 that couldn't use the method I described.

In general, connecting random combinations of wires is a bad idea.

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#303006 - 10/12/02 12:48 PM Re: Anyone remember how to...
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electroken, i have a 2000 4x4 frontier. i know this is an xterra board, but the trucks are so similiar i like to come here for ideas. i tried the modded relay from radio shack awhile ago. twice i went into the garage only to find my fogs lights on, with the fog switch in the off position. seems i have a loose connection in the relay maybe? have you heard of this, or did i do a bad job on the relay?

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#303007 - 10/12/02 06:19 PM Re: Anyone remember how to...
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Mitch,
It's not a loose connection but instead one that is staying connected when it shouldn't. It sounds to me like a relay that is either defective or was damaged during the modification process.

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#303008 - 11/12/02 06:07 AM Re: Anyone remember how to...
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ElectroKen -

I have the factory '02 service manual (all five or six volumes worth). Would you like copies of the appropriate electrical pages so that you can help all of lost souls in the dark?

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#303009 - 11/12/02 09:13 AM Re: Anyone remember how to...
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That would be great - it would certainly clear up some of the mystery surrounding the 2002.

Can you scan those few pages and e-mail them or is old-fashioned snail mail better?

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#303010 - 11/12/02 09:49 AM Re: Anyone remember how to...
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Electronic Guru -

Old fashioned snail mail would be better (I am a low tech Luddite at heart). Due to business travel I am about 3K miles from the manuals this week, but I can get them to you early next week. Let me know via PM what your interests are and where to send it.

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#303011 - 11/12/02 04:53 PM Re: Anyone remember how to...
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Quote:
Originally posted by ElectroKen:
Quote:
Originally posted by Toy4x4Guy:
[b]Using the parking light method, connecting the red/black to the blue/red...does this allow the fog lights to work with the parking lights, low beams, and high beams?

Thanks,
This thread has become pretty confusing. The clearest explanation is my post from 5/21/01 at 06:21. Several people have had success using that post.

I should add that this method works with the 2001 and 2002 but NOT the 2003 X.[/b]
I follow your post on how to wire the connector, that's not my issue. I want my fog lights to come on with the parking lights, low beams, and high beams, but I want the reminder buzzer. I don't care about them being on by themselves, so wiring them to come on with the parking lights sounds like what I want to do, but no one has commented on whether these stay on with the hi beams?

Anyone?
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#303012 - 11/12/02 07:53 PM Re: Anyone remember how to...
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[/QUOTE]I follow your post on how to wire the connector, that's not my issue. I want my fog lights to come on with the parking lights, low beams, and high beams, but I want the reminder buzzer. I don't care about them being on by themselves, so wiring them to come on with the parking lights sounds like what I want to do, but no one has commented on whether these stay on with the hi beams?

Anyone?[/QB][/QUOTE]

Nevermind, I went ahead and did some tests with the multimeter and got the answer. Hooking up the lights as described in Ken's post causes the fog lights to come on with the parking lights, and remain on with low and high beams. The switch still turns the fog lights off if you so choose.

Another simple mod. 20 minutes total, including the multimeter testing time.
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