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#302928 - 24/01/01 07:14 AM
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Ken - I think I'll stop ar RS this afternoon and pick up a relay. One question tho, where is this relay located on the (00) X? dave and Xtoy - another project ------------------
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#302930 - 24/01/01 11:01 AM
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Thanks for the info Ken. This time of year, it's no fun spending time looking for a component that 'could' be located almost any place.
dave and Xtoy - lost and found
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#302931 - 27/01/01 10:01 AM
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Do you know how to modify a 2001 Xterra SE as well? and after this modification will the fog lights stay on even when you turn the brights on? and one last question, will this mod void any warranties? ------------------ PoorBoy =-=-=-=-=-= 2001 SE 4x2 Alpine Green "Spooky" http://poorboy.virtualave.net/Xterra/spooky.html [This message has been edited by PoorBoy (edited January 27, 2001).]
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#302933 - 27/01/01 07:36 PM
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ElectroKen, Thanks for the help. I was looking for this mod too. This site sure is a God send to us newbies!
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#302934 - 31/01/01 07:25 AM
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Ken - Just wanted to let you know that the relay mod worked as advertised. I can turn on my OEM fog, now back-up lights at any time. Now all I need to do is wire in an indicator light so I won't forget to turn them off.
dave and Xtoy - did he say jumper cables?
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#302936 - 01/03/01 04:15 PM
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Hey ElectroKen, You wouldn't happen to have an extra modified relay on hand, would ya? I'll gladly reimburse you for it! ------------------ Paul Crescini '00 Super Black SE 4wd Auto http://www.lil-pino.com/xterra.html
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#302938 - 02/03/01 11:26 AM
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Thanks! I just emailed you my mailing address. ------------------ Paul Crescini '00 Super Black SE 4wd Auto http://www.lil-pino.com/xterra.html
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#302939 - 03/03/01 03:41 AM
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Worked Great!!!
Many Thanks!
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#302940 - 03/03/01 09:18 AM
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Run a jumper from the ac fuse to the coil energized post of the relay. your lights will be on whenever your X is on. I will post a pic as soon as I get down to the parking lot. Originally posted by PoorBoy: Do you know how to modify a 2001 Xterra SE as well? and after this modification will the fog lights stay on even when you turn the brights on? and one last question, will this mod void any warranties?
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#302941 - 03/03/01 11:07 AM
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I don't know how the switch works on the X, but on my car, the fogs work the same way: the low beam headlights must be on for the fogs to work. There was a wire coming from the hi/low beam switch that provides power to the fog light switch while the low beams are on.
All I did was cut this wire coming from the low beams, and replace it with a splice from a nearby ignition source wire, so my fog lights will work whenever the key is turned on and the fog light switch is on, but will turn off when I turn the car off. Foolproof. A wiring diagram helps.
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#302945 - 10/03/01 07:47 PM
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Hey Ken, I just received the relay today. Thanks!! I just have one question. I've located the fog relay that I am supposed to replace with the one you sent me. The problem is that I cannot figure out how to remove the relay. (please forgive my ignorance. i would normally try and figure it out by myself but it's late and it's cold) Is there some kind of tab that I have to depress to remove the relay? I tried to pull it out but I don't want to use too much force for fear of breaking something. I appreciate your help. I'll mail your money on Monday. ------------------ Paul Crescini '00 Super Black SE 4wd Auto http://www.lil-pino.com/xterra.html
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#302947 - 04/04/01 08:26 PM
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Originally posted by ElectroKen: The mod for the 2000 was simple - swapping out a relay. It allowed the fog lights to be turned on at any time. The warranty was preserved because no permanent wiring modifications were made. The 2001 is wired differently. I don't know just how different it is because my service manual is for a 2000. If I can get my hands on the circuit diagram for a 2001 it won't be hard to mod the 2001 as well.
ElectroKen, I have a wiring diagram for the front fog lamps for the '01 Xterra. I'd like to email it to you and see if you can come up with a "fix" for the fog light/low beam interdependance prob. ------------------ Nuk'em Solar Yellow '01 EX 4x4 3 pack
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#302948 - 05/04/01 12:01 AM
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Hey Nuk'em, would ya mind terribly sending me a copy of that diagram too. highlanderkid@hotmail.com Got some ideas myself, besides sometimes two heads are better than one. Thanks. ------------------ 2001 V6 5spd XE 4X4 3pk Just Bada$$ Blue "Scottish by birth, English by law, Highlander by the grace of God!"
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#302949 - 05/04/01 04:49 AM
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Originally posted by Nuk'em: ElectroKen, I have a wiring diagram for the front fog lamps for the '01 Xterra. I'd like to email it to you and see if you can come up with a "fix" for the fog light/low beam interdependance prob.
I am just very curious where did you get the wiring diagram for 2001 ? all i see is 2000 and if you ask a dealer to send you a CD for 2001, you will still get 2000 ------------------
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#302951 - 05/04/01 08:33 PM
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Originally posted by Olegkha: I am just very curious where did you get the wiring diagram for 2001 ?
all i see is 2000 and if you ask a dealer to send you a CD for 2001, you will still get 2000
Olegkha, I know a guy, who knows a guy, who knows a guy......if you know what I mean.
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#302953 - 06/04/01 08:03 AM
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ElectroKen--if you want me to start poking around things w/ a multimeter just let me know, I'd certainly be willing to help out. (I have a 2001.) ------------------ Vikram/gothamist -- MAXC member http://www.4x4LO.com
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#302954 - 06/04/01 06:42 PM
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Ken. I got that diagram directly from a Nissan service department computer. Makes me wonder if I'd want them to work on any electrical probs I might have.
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#302955 - 10/04/01 01:34 AM
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Don't knock the poor dealer service department. As a dealer tech first for Mitsubishi/Mazda and now for Benz/Saab I can assure you that Factory trained techs know what they are doing. It's not unusal for makers upgrade the cars numerous times before they remember to rewrite the service books. Don't be suprised if a revised manual is at the dealer now.
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#302956 - 12/04/01 06:32 AM
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Any update for an easy mod to the fog lights for the 01's? I'd really like to use my fog lights when the headlights are off or on HI. I'd be glad to help in any way, but I don't much about volts and amps... ------------------ "Do not meddle in the affairs of sysadmins, for they are subtle and quick to anger." Join the Heartland Xterra Owners Club at www.hxoc.net
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#302957 - 12/04/01 07:17 AM
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Count me as interested in this mod also. (for '01's, that is.) Thanks
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#302958 - 12/04/01 09:07 AM
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Count me in as well ... any info is greatly appreciated ...
Thanks in advance !
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#302959 - 12/04/01 04:28 PM
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Make that one more that is interested in 01' mod
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#302960 - 13/04/01 07:36 PM
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It appears everyone is definately interested in this I looked it over some, but havent gotten a chance to really dig into it yet. I agree it does apear that the 01 is wired diferent than the 00, I'm trying to locate an easy way to supply power from the ign. switch to the fog light switch, this would be the most appealing fix to me, though it may not be easily accomplished. Especially without updated wiring diagrams, none the less I'll keep looking.
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#302962 - 20/04/01 03:07 PM
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Hey ElectroKen I gotta say it. I have sat here and read all these threads on the fog light relay situation and you have not scoffed or had one bad reply to say. This tells me you are of a fine character and have the patience of Job. Keep up the good work!
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#302963 - 20/04/01 05:56 PM
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Originally posted by LoganvilleX: Hey ElectroKen I gotta say it. I have sat here and read all these threads on the fog light relay situation and you have not scoffed or had one bad reply to say. This tells me you are of a fine character and have the patience of Job. Keep up the good work!
I agree with Logan. Ken is an "ElectroStud!" Ken I've got one of your first "experimental" relays that you gave to O'Polka for his 2001. It didn't work, so we tried it in mine, and it did (2000). I've still got it and it's awesome. I think I speak for everyone when I say "Thanks" for all your help!! ------------------ 00 Bronze 4x4 XE 3pac AT SWXC Memeber #29
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#302965 - 29/04/01 02:37 PM
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Ken On the two wire connector the red/black wire is hot when the lights (low beam) are on .... fog lights off. On the eight wire connector there is a red and a red/black wire at the bottom of the connector. I have emailed you a photo of each. I hope this helps. If you need anything else checked out on an '01 drop me a line.
Thanks for your help, Nuk'em
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#302966 - 29/04/01 08:20 PM
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ElectroKen:
We who are interested in all your hard work on the '01 relay for the fog lights, thank you in advance for the time and effort you've expended ...
------------------ Pepper Kay "All my X are belong to me" SWXC #39
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#302968 - 30/04/01 08:45 AM
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ElectroKen, where do I send my money ?? ... this is just too cool ------------------ Pepper Kay "All my X are belong to me" SWXC #39
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#302970 - 30/04/01 02:32 PM
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Ah, but I'm electrically 'handicapped' ... I trust the details will make sense to even a klutz as myself ? ...
------------------ Pepper Kay "All my X are belong to me" ... SWXC #39
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#302971 - 01/05/01 05:21 AM
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At last I think I can help all of the 2001 X owners who don't like the way their factory fog lights work. You can have the option of running the fog lights anytime OR only when the parking lights are on. First the disclaimers- 1) I have a 2000 X so I haven't tried this. I do believe that it will work correctly. 2) The modification will involve cutting into the factory wiring harness. If this bothers you DON'T DO IT. You will need: 1 butt splice, 18-22AWG, typically red, Radio Shack #64-3108 or equivalent. 1 "tap" connector, 14-18AWG, typically blue, Radio Shack #64-3052 or equivalent. 1 6" piece of 18AWG stranded wire, color matched to your X electrical tape The first step is to remove the 5 philips head screws from the bottom of the steering column cover. The two halves will snap apart and the top half can be removed. There are 3 connectors for the turn signal/headlight/foglight switch. We're interested in the one with 2 wires and the one with 8 wires. On the 2-wire connector harness, cut back the tubing to reveal a couple inches of the wires. They are red/black and red/something else. Cut the red/black wire leaving both ends long enough to work on. Tape up the end that is still connected to the truck harness. Using the butt splice connect one end of the 6" jumper wire to the stub of red/black wire at the 2-wire connector. Here is where you need to choose how you want your lights to operate: For those that want the ability to turn on the fog lights anytime, connect the 6" jumper wire to the purple wire in the 8-pin connector harness using the tap connector. Note that the headlight warning system will NOT remind you to turn the fogs off if you choose this option. For those that want the ability to use the fog lights whenever the parking lights are on, connect the 6" jumper wire to the blue/red wire in the 8-pin connector harness using the tap connector. In this case the headlight warning system will let you know if you leave the fogs on. Test it. Reassemble the column covers. All Done. I hope some brave soul will try this and let us all know how it works. ------------------
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#302972 - 01/05/01 06:54 AM
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Hey Blue:
If you'll volunteer to meet up with ElectroKen and be the 'test dummy', I'll split your gas expenses 50-50 with you for making the trip ...
------------------ Pepper Kay "All my X are belong to me" ... SWXC #39
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#302973 - 01/05/01 07:18 AM
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I was just thinking of offering to let him use my truck for the '01 fix. Ken, email me and let's see what we can work out. I'll buy the materials if you do the work Pepper, don't worry about the gas, hon. It's gonna be a nice ride for me and Boz blue@boscoe.tv PS: It would be a great thing to show everyone at ECXC and the plant tour in a few weeks! ------------------ 2001 XE-3pk Auto Just Blue 4x4 [This message has been edited by blue (edited 05-01-2001).]
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#302974 - 01/05/01 09:16 AM
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EletroKen ... would posting the pics that Nuk'em sent be of any help to those of us who are eletricaly disabled ?? ... at least we could see what it's supposed to look like when you open everything up ...
------------------ Pepper Kay "All my X are belong to me" ... SWXC #39
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#302976 - 01/05/01 10:38 AM
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Ken, you kick ass. I'm doing this when I get home from work. When you say "always on", is that really always, or is it ignition-sensitive? ------------------ "Do not meddle in the affairs of sysadmins, for they are subtle and quick to anger." Join the Heartland Xterra Owners Club at www.hxoc.net
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#302978 - 01/05/01 03:00 PM
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What's the electrical tape for? I'm on my way to the store now, will let you know the results later. If the electrical tape is for sealing up the connectors, I will use heat shrink tube instead. *edit* Ahh... figured out you can't get heat shrink tube around a vampire tap on an existing wire... As far as the wiring, if I opt for the ignition-sensed configuration, will the fog lights go on when I have the high beams on? ...or just with the lo-beams and parking lights? ------------------ "got root?" Join the Heartland Xterra Owners Club at www.hxoc.net [This message has been edited by Caver-X (edited 05-01-2001).]
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#302979 - 01/05/01 04:51 PM
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Ken, You Da Man! Works great. I went with the purple wire, lights go on anytime. Thanks a bunch for the help! Now I have to stuff all this wire back in the column... That red/black wire coming from the firewall that you had me tape off, do I need it at all? Can I cut it off, or might I need it later? I don't like the idea of it just taped off. ------------------ "got root?" Join the Heartland Xterra Owners Club at www.hxoc.net [This message has been edited by Caver-X (edited 05-01-2001).]
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#302981 - 01/05/01 05:50 PM
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Well, I guess if you guys have figured it out, there's no reason for me to take my truck down to Ken. And I was getting psyched to show off the mod ------------------ 2001 XE-3pk Auto Just Blue 4x4
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#302982 - 01/05/01 06:58 PM
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Yeah, it was pretty easy. Kinda cramped for space, though. Only problem I had was that I nearly crapped my pants when I accidentally leaned on the horn... (it echos real good in the garage) ------------------ "got root?" Join the Heartland Xterra Owners Club at www.hxoc.net
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#302983 - 01/05/01 06:59 PM
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ElectroKen ... remember that I am old, slow and electrically challenged ...
I just went out, did the routine with the lights ... parking lights come on, then low beams and parking lights, then low beams, parking lights and fog lights, then high beams, parking lights and NO fog lights ...
I presume the same would be true had I put the key in the ignition and moved it to ACCY or ON ...
So, if I muddle my way successfully through the fruits of your hard labor, I will be able to turn the fog lights on, irregardless of the parking lights, low beams and/or high beams, yes ?? ...
Lastly, when you speak of the steering wheel cover, you're talking about the cover over the wheel inside the cabin, I hope ...
Thanks again for all your hard work ... I'm going to pick up everything tomorrow at RS and give this a try ...
------------------ Pepper Kay "All my X are belong to me" ... SWXC
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#302985 - 21/05/01 08:52 PM
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Hey Ken, can you send me a relay for the 2000 fog light mod. Chad Carson 1410 Grayfox Lane Spring hill, TN. 37174 Also send me your address so i can send you the $8.oo. Thanks, Chad
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#302987 - 22/05/01 09:55 AM
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Ken,
You rule. You RULE!
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#302988 - 22/05/01 09:57 AM
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Thanks, This mod works great for when your friends drop their pants in the woods and you need a little light ------------------ 2000 X, V6, 4X4 of course, black, with body mods;) Thank you, Trees
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#302989 - 22/05/01 10:30 AM
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Ken, Can you send me an email? I'm interested in one of those relays. ------------------ Eric Mueller Member - Heartland Xterra Owners Club
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#302990 - 26/05/01 03:47 PM
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Thanks "ElectroKen" on the fog light fix you posted a few posts ago.It's the one for the 2001 Xterra's. I just tryed it and it works great!!! Very easy to do too.I was all done in 10 min's.From start to finnish. I have a 2001 Yellow SE V6 4X4 and did the fix where the fog loghts are on when the park lights are on. Just letting you and every one know that it's not vrey hard to do and it works great. Thanks "ElectroKen" Bill Wheeler St John's Newfoundland,Canada 2001 Yellow Xterra SE
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#302991 - 02/06/01 05:19 PM
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ElectroKen and Nuk'em:
ZCaptain and I spent a frustrating 2 hours last night trying Nuk'em's method ... first problem noticed was no red and black wires ... 2 red and gray wires ... best we could do was get the right headlight to turn on by itself or the foglights on without being able to get lo/hi beams ...
We felt lower than a snake's belly, so put everything back properly and I came on home ...
Later in the week, we'll try ElectroKen's method ...
Any suggestions ? ...
------------------ Pepper Kay
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#302992 - 04/06/01 07:16 PM
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Thanks EK,
Did the fog light mod when I got home from work today, Worked perfectly. No 6" pigtail... I don't know if mine was an oddball but I had enough wire to connect directly. Saved my butt from a joint.
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#302993 - 07/06/01 03:26 PM
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Man, I can't wait to mod my '00. I've always wanted to have control of the fog lights
Here's a quick question for you guys. Using this mod, you can very easily drain the battery. I know I've seen things in cataloges that cut off the connection to the battery when the battery's charge gets too low.
Has anyone tried one of these? Do they really work?
If so, it might not be a bad investment to save all those jumps (I've got an auto).
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#302994 - 07/06/01 06:17 PM
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If anyone can get me a diagram of what to do to a 2000 X for this mod, I would be greatly appreciative.
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#302995 - 19/06/01 05:38 PM
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would this void your warranty?
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#302997 - 12/01/02 11:59 AM
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Originally posted by ElectroKen: The 2001 mod involves modifying the wiring harness and Nissan would have a legit argument for denying warranty service IF the failure was related to the modification.
The 2000 mod is a plug in. If you need warranty service just put the original relay back in and no one will be the wiser. Not that I am really concerned with the warrenty, but.... I was wondering if it was at all possible to make a relay for the '01 Xterra's for the fog mod. The only reason I ask, is that I'd hate to cut and splice wires and then have a "plug and play" device come out that does the exact same thing (just because I'm being lazy right now, it'll probably pass, but I'm still curious). and please forgive me if I sound like an idiot, but I'm not the most electrically inclined person in the world (although I like to pretend I am).
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#302998 - 12/01/02 02:33 PM
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Well the person you quoted is the club electronics guru(hence his name)and what you quoted is the only mod that I know of for the 01' From the sounds of it it is not to hard?
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#303000 - 13/01/02 12:38 PM
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Ok, thanks Ken. I was just wondring.
Now, off to cut some wires....
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#303001 - 14/01/02 08:16 AM
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ElectroKen a BIG to ya! Thank you so much, I have a 2001 and it only took 5 or so minutes to do... I think it took longer to take the 5 screws out. And you have been so cool about everyone asking you questions... and not jumping down their throats... A big 5 rating for ya' and my thanks.
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#303002 - 09/12/02 10:22 AM
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Originally posted by ElectroKen: I guess I'm in better shape because I'm just old and slow. [img] /ubb/wink.gif [/img] The cover that gets removed is the gray plastic "clamshell" cover that surrounds the ignition switch and the steering column. Don't mess with the actual steering wheel cover (where the horn switch is) because the air bag is in there too. Attaching to the described purple wire will allow the fog lights to operate any time, regardless of any other switch position. Just remember to turn them off.
Using the parking light method, connecting the red/black to the blue/red...does this allow the fog lights to work with the parking lights, low beams, and high beams? Thanks,
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#303003 - 09/12/02 07:49 PM
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electroken, i had serious problems when trying ur method in my 2001 xterra. first i found the 2 wire piece with the red/black and red/something else wires and the 8 wire piece with the blue/red and the purple wire. However, when i used ur method and took the red/black wire and hooked it up to the blue/red wire i got no fog lights during any operation (when using no lights, parking lights, low beams, or high beams). So, then i tryed the red/black wire with the purple wire and when i did this i got no fog lights during any operation (when using no lights, parking lights, low beams, or high beams). But when the red/black wire was hooked into the purple wire, and i used my parking lights the right front headlight came on (even when the 8 wire piece wasn't connected). So, then i hooked the red/black wire back up the way it was and used the red/something else wire. When using the red/something else wire, i hooked it up to the blue/red wire, this gave me the use of fog lights during paking lights, low beams, and high beams; but the fog light switch doesn't turn the fog lights off. The fog lights just automatically come on with the parking lights, low beams, and high beams. So, then i took the red/something else wire and the purple wire hooked them together and this turned the fog lights on all the time (with no lights, parking lights, low beams, and high beams). But i still couldn't use the fog light switch, the fog lights just came on right when i hooked them to the purple wire eventhough the 8 piece wire connector wasn't connected. So do u have any ideas on how to get the switch working or what i did wrong.
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#303006 - 10/12/02 12:48 PM
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electroken, i have a 2000 4x4 frontier. i know this is an xterra board, but the trucks are so similiar i like to come here for ideas. i tried the modded relay from radio shack awhile ago. twice i went into the garage only to find my fogs lights on, with the fog switch in the off position. seems i have a loose connection in the relay maybe? have you heard of this, or did i do a bad job on the relay?
thanks, mitch.
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#303008 - 11/12/02 06:07 AM
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ElectroKen -
I have the factory '02 service manual (all five or six volumes worth). Would you like copies of the appropriate electrical pages so that you can help all of lost souls in the dark?
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#303010 - 11/12/02 09:49 AM
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Electronic Guru -
Old fashioned snail mail would be better (I am a low tech Luddite at heart). Due to business travel I am about 3K miles from the manuals this week, but I can get them to you early next week. Let me know via PM what your interests are and where to send it.
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#303011 - 11/12/02 04:53 PM
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Originally posted by ElectroKen: Originally posted by Toy4x4Guy: [b]Using the parking light method, connecting the red/black to the blue/red...does this allow the fog lights to work with the parking lights, low beams, and high beams?
Thanks, This thread has become pretty confusing. The clearest explanation is my post from 5/21/01 at 06:21. Several people have had success using that post.
I should add that this method works with the 2001 and 2002 but NOT the 2003 X.[/b]I follow your post on how to wire the connector, that's not my issue. I want my fog lights to come on with the parking lights, low beams, and high beams, but I want the reminder buzzer. I don't care about them being on by themselves, so wiring them to come on with the parking lights sounds like what I want to do, but no one has commented on whether these stay on with the hi beams? Anyone?
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#303012 - 11/12/02 07:53 PM
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[/QUOTE]I follow your post on how to wire the connector, that's not my issue. I want my fog lights to come on with the parking lights, low beams, and high beams, but I want the reminder buzzer. I don't care about them being on by themselves, so wiring them to come on with the parking lights sounds like what I want to do, but no one has commented on whether these stay on with the hi beams?
Anyone?[/QB][/QUOTE]
Nevermind, I went ahead and did some tests with the multimeter and got the answer. Hooking up the lights as described in Ken's post causes the fog lights to come on with the parking lights, and remain on with low and high beams. The switch still turns the fog lights off if you so choose.
Another simple mod. 20 minutes total, including the multimeter testing time.
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