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#312427 - 02/03/04 11:19 AM Re: XboXterra
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Thanks!

So with that, and software piracy out of the way....

What do you guys think?

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#312428 - 02/03/04 12:29 PM Re: XboXterra
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I think I want you to come rig my X-Box into my x with all ur games smile ....oh yeah...u'll hafta solder a mod-chip in my box, install the 120 gig HDD and al that, so bring a 6 pack with ya wink

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#312429 - 02/03/04 12:43 PM Re: XboXterra
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I wouldn't mind havin my PS2 installed in my X either. I'll bring a 12 pack though.

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#312430 - 02/03/04 01:44 PM Re: XboXterra
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NP...I'll help anyone when it comes to install and stuff. PS2 is fun and all...but you can't mod it out like you can an Xbox.

If you want, you can send me your Xbox, a 120GB HD, and a mod chip, I'll install everything for ya. PM me for details.

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#312431 - 02/03/04 01:45 PM Re: XboXterra
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Originally posted by dolemite:
[b]It doesn't have the sunroof.....
It's an XE... no biggie... just an FYI...[/b]
Actaully the sunroof became an option on the SE in the 2002 model year rather than standard like it was on the 2000 and 2001 SE's.
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#312432 - 02/03/04 01:48 PM Re: XboXterra
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Originally posted by thinksaturn:
If that is an SE they switched rims on you. Hope it was not new. eek
And the roof rack, step rails, stereo, head lights, bumper, grill, steering wheel, seats, dash trim, door panels, map lights, sun visors…
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#312433 - 02/03/04 03:02 PM Re: XboXterra
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Quote:
Originally posted by Ramness570:
Quote:
Originally posted by thinksaturn:
[b]If that is an SE they switched rims on you. Hope it was not new. eek
And the roof rack, step rails, stereo, head lights, bumper, grill, steering wheel, seats, dash trim, door panels, map lights, sun visors…[/b]
What's different about the step rails, head lights, bumper, grill, steering wheel, seats, dash trim, door panels, map lights, and sun visors?

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#312434 - 02/03/04 04:30 PM Re: XboXterra
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What's different about the step rails, head lights, bumper, grill, steering wheel, seats, dash trim, door panels, map lights, and sun visors?
Roof rack would be a darker charcoal color rather than the light gray that you have. The step rails would match the roof rack as well as the charcoal colored wheels. Your wheels are silver.

The headlights would have silver or “titanium” trim rather than the black that you have.

The lower decorative “skid plate” would be the same titanium color as the headlight trim, the trim on the grill would also match. Yours are silver.

Your steering wheel would be leather wrapped.

You would have the 6 disc in dash changer, 10” sub and audio controls on the steering wheel rather than a single disc player.

All the seats would have gray with a light blue stitching in the middle rather than solid gray.

Your dash trim around the stereo, AC and middle air vents, the strip above the glove box, and the trim around the gauges would all be “titanium” colored rather than black.

The trim on the doors containing the window switches and such would also be titanium rather than black and the fabric on the doors would also be the gray with light blue stitching.

The map lights would have a compass and thermometer, your compass is probably part of the mirror.

And the sun visor on the passenger side would have a mirror, yours does not.

Here are some pictures to compare to from an eBay auction for a stock 2003 SE 4x4









Hey… you asked…
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#312435 - 02/03/04 05:37 PM Re: XboXterra
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Thanks! Interesting....though I like the exterior on the SE more...I like my interior more.

So...now that's out of the way, back on topic.

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#312436 - 02/03/04 06:46 PM Re: XboXterra
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How do you update the hard drive on your xbox, do you have to take it apart and hook it up in your computer or can you through the network card in it?

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#312437 - 02/03/04 10:30 PM Re: XboXterra
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Well, first you have to get a mod chip. Mod chips run ~$50.

Then, set up the mod chip to run and what not.

Hook up your new hard drive, and run the boot disc for your new GUI. At this point you can FTP to your Xbox from your computer (through a patch cable). Once you patch into it, you set up the GUI to run off the HD on startup.

Then, you have to run a program from the Xbox that you ftp'd over to re-"lock" the hard drive so you can use the original Xbox bios (say to use Xbox live or something).

I made it sound easy.....and it's nothing but.

[edit] Yeah, you have to take it all apart. For the mod chip, you have to do a lot of soldering, or spend an extra $40 on a solderless mount.

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#312438 - 03/03/04 10:37 AM Re: XboXterra
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I am not ripping on your install, I think it is pretty sweet. I just have a question to ask. You aren't one of those guys that is going to mod your X to do better on trails, and put all of that expensive stereo stuff in it...are you? You basically bought the 4X4 for better traction in the winter, right?
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#312439 - 03/03/04 01:52 PM Re: XboXterra
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Eh, I'll do whatever I want. I don't plan on going crazy with offroading stuff....I live in IL (fairly flat state). Even if I did, an xbox in the back wouldn't hinder my ability to it.

I got the Xterra on a whim. My last car was totalled out, and I was given a $34,000 check by insurance to buy whatever I wanted. My last car was fully paid off, so I figured what the hell, I'm in college, might as well start being conservative, buy something ~$24k in cash, and invest the rest.

So....no cars in that price range really appealed to me. Almost bought an STi...but decided I'd rather save, have a nice chunk of change for after college.

So, in the end, I guess I did just get the Xterra for better traction in the winter, and the occasional offroading.

In the summer, I'll be on my Busa most of the time.

Even if I was one of those guys, who cares? You should think outside the sphere , no?

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#312440 - 04/03/04 02:37 PM Re: XboXterra
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Hey Dolemite can you do a write up of what you did and how you did it?

Ive been looking to do a mod like this for some time and this looks like a pretty good deal. How much was the mod chip and what not? Doesnt the mod chip kill your abillity to play xbox live?

I just want something to play games on when im on my lunch break and watch movies on when im driving 105 down the PA turnpike so i dont get bored...... ok just in case that was a JOKE
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#312441 - 04/03/04 03:43 PM Re: XboXterra
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Here goes nothin.

The mod chip I used was the Xenium chip....so you could switch up to 4 banks of bios's from the software, or use the Microsoft Bios (so you can still play Xbox Live). Most chips don't allow this. One you solder up the chip (not an easy task by any means....EVERY small board to solder, d0 wire is even smaller), you have to flash the bios using a boot disc. These are kinda difficult to make...you have to use a bunch of dummy files, you have to edit the bios yourself, you have to burn it to a cd-rw a certain way, or else it all screws up.

Anyways...once you flash the bios, you have to boot up the dashboard (gui). Once you boot that from the disc (again, hard to get to work, the xbox dvd player doesn't like reading anything), you have to FTP to the xbox using a patch cable to your computer. Once you ftp, you can install teh GUI to the hard drive on the Xbox, and go from there.

I would suggest installing a larger hard drive before installing the GUI, since the HD that comes with the Xbox is 8gig....which won't hold much. I have a 120gig that I'm already thinking of upgrading.

Once the GUI is installed, you can FTP to the box whenever you want, and send more programs/media/whatever to the box.

For more info, email me at PontiacGT2K@yahoo.com
or AIM me at stric9maharishi
or check out www.xbox-scene.com for a LOT of useful info.

If everything I just said was incredibly over your head, you can send me your xbox and I'll install it all for you. Contact me for details.

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#312442 - 04/03/04 05:02 PM Re: XboXterra
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If everything I just said was incredibly over your head, you can send me your xbox and I'll install it all for you. Contact me for details.
Just remember it's illegal under the DMCA, regardless of what dolemite thinks. But who cares, you kids steal everything these days smile
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#312443 - 04/03/04 07:09 PM Re: XboXterra
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Ian are you saying modifying an XBOX is illegal???

WHy are the chips so readily available?

Or are you talking about hacking the xbox in order to change its format and original intended use?
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#312444 - 04/03/04 08:47 PM Re: XboXterra
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Quote:
Originally posted by xoc:
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Originally posted by dolemite:
[b]If everything I just said was incredibly over your head, you can send me your xbox and I'll install it all for you. Contact me for details.
Just remember it's illegal under the DMCA, regardless of what dolemite thinks. But who cares, you kids steal everything these days smile [/b]
I'd prefer you quit referring to me as "you kids". I'm not a kid, and even if I were it's highly close-minded to group an entire age range together as all sharing the same beliefs... Ugh. I'm trying to stay civil...hell this is one of my first threads...but one thing that really sets me off is close minded people that give into paradigms and stereotypes.

Mod chips aren't illegal in the U.S. They are in Italy, and a few other countries, but on the U.S. I made sure of this by asking one of the guys in our legal/copywright/licensing department.

Installing game backups onto the xbox that you don't own is illegal...I personally believe it is wrong, and I have selfish reasons too (I work at a software company). So no one do that.

Sorry about the rant...but even though I'm a newb on this site, I can still take offense to something....whether it's said by the newbest of the newbs....or the admin.

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#312445 - 04/03/04 08:55 PM Re: XboXterra
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Ian are you saying modifying an XBOX is illegal???

WHy are the chips so readily available?

Microsoft (and Sony and Nintendo) clearly state that an Xbox cannot be tampered with. They own the software on it, and all the games you buy, you are simply licensing them. By modifying it, you are violating the license agreement you agreed to by opening the package.

Copying any Xbox, PS2 or Nintendo software (or backing them up) is a violation of the licenses covering those products and is also illegal.

Argue about it all day long if you want, but these are facts. Dolemite, I don't know which software company you work for, but they need to hire a new legal department.

And yes, you are a kid, I wrote my first software app 2 years before you were born. wink
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#312446 - 04/03/04 09:24 PM Re: XboXterra
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Whether it's illegal or not (I don't feel like arguing with you), I did purchase the games. They got their money. If I want to copy them to my Xbox, so be it. If it's technically illegal, so be it. I know what I'm doing isn't immoral by any means....I'm playing games I purchased.

Like I said, I'm trying to be civil. Stop blatently fulfilling society's paradigm of a middle aged guy on the internet by calling me a kid.

[edit] Let's put this back on topic. I posted this here so people could ask questions about the install or comment, not to discuss the legalities. I thought we were past that earlier in the thread?

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#312447 - 04/03/04 09:41 PM Re: XboXterra
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Let's put this back on topic. I posted this here so people could ask questions about the install or comment, not to discuss the legalities.
But that's not nearly as entertaining. laugh

It's an OK install of $10,000 worth of A/V equipment into a $25,000 vehicle.
I could think of a lot better ways to spend that money since the only person who sits in the back of my Xterra is our pit-bull, and he doesn't have thumbs, so he couldn't hold the Xbox controller.

As an adult I fail to see the point to putting a living room inside a car.
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#312448 - 04/03/04 09:57 PM Re: XboXterra
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It wasn't nearly $10,000 worth of equipment. The screens were $100 each on Ebay. The stuff I did to the xbox cost $150.. .and that travels between the Xterra and my apt. The head unit that's going in was from my last vehicle, and cost $250. The wiring and stuff cost $25. The in-dash one I got through a friend for $400 because he is sponsored. So that comes out to around $1100.

I trailor friends' cars to and from shows all over the nation, as well as the GMCI models (I'm part of Team GMCI, the best sport compact team in the world in leiu of their winnings at Hot Import Nights and SEMA) go on road trips with friends a lot, so the setup will get a lot of use.

Last, we have to remember: I'm not you.

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#312449 - 05/03/04 06:34 AM Re: XboXterra
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dolemite

As far as modding the xbox and running the wires and such it looks good. I like the placement of the wires on the back "map pocket" or whatever it is. It also looks very clean. My only problem with it is the Xbox is completely exposed and isnt in a very reachable place. I mean you got all those hot models in the back of your truck and they have to bend over the back to change the gam......nevermind now i see the reasoning for the placement

[Too much XOC]

seriously though any plans in the future to move the xbox to a better location or a more stealthy location. Like maybe hack it and make it part of the center console?
I dont know just throwin out ideas.

nice car club went to some links and checked em out seems like a pretty big club.
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#312450 - 05/03/04 07:34 AM Re: XboXterra
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Well, I don't like the positioning either, but that's pretty much the only spot I could get it to fit. If I could hack into the bottom of the passenger seat a lil, I could get it to fit there, and load discs from the front, but I'm not about to do that.

The center console doesn't have enough room to fit the Xbox.

Also, this isn't staying in the xterra. Originally I was going to remote mount the DVD player from the Xbox in one of the din openings, put the mother board behind paneling, and mount the hard drive under the passenger seat with a sort of suspension built for it....but honestly I'd like to use my Xbox in the house too. Also, IDE cables have limits as to how far they can reach.

I put everything on the hard drive just so I wouldn't have to worry about using the disc drive. And if someone in the back has to bend over and put in discs....I have a rear view mirror [LOL] .

So for now, it's staying there.

[edit] As for GMCI...Bob Mull won Hot Import Nights elite class best of show in Chicago AND LA last year....as well as taking home "Show car of the year for the world" at SEMA (basically, it was a competition of all the show cars of the world, he won). And, GMCI won show team of the year at SEMA as well. This year they completely re-designed a few of the cars on the show team....so it should be interesting.

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#312451 - 05/03/04 09:23 AM Re: XboXterra
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Be prepared to catch critism when you post things on the internet. This is a site that is dedicated to the Xterra, but on more of an offroad and maintence level. That is why events like GONE Moab and GOX are around and not events like Hot Import Nights for Xterra owners. Your install is original and creative, but lose the attitude and enjoy yourself.

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