Any word yet on when it may be? If it may be? I need to start planning vacation time, new tires and what not.

Sign me up!

Labor Day week.

IS IT 4x2 FRIENDLY ?

No.
Sorry.

Oh stop it, you're not sorry. If you were really sorry, you'd make GOX a week long trip to different malls in the area. And maybe throw in a dirt road or two to really shake things up.

After seeing GOX and the trails there in the Ouray area this year, the trails are just like rough fire road with a few small obstacles along the way. Not much else. A 4x2 could do quite a few of the trails in that area with some exception.

While driving down a few of them, I was waiting to see a mall around the bend. Heck, I saw a Lincoln Navigator out on the Alpine Loop. Even got a snapshot of it. Too funny.

Ouray trails... ... See you all on the Rubicon.

I look forward to not seeing you and your shitty attitude next year.

Nope, no shitty attitude here. Just wasn't impressed with the trails (technical aspect ONLY) at Ouray. Rather disappointed actually. The history and scenery was outstanding though.

It's a great place for folks that don't have a great deal of offroad experience to learn and interact with others. Good social climate. Being a veteran offroader, I just desire a little more challenge. Didn't mean to get your panties in a bunch there Ian. Take a Mydol Sparky.

Ouray was a neat little place. Silverton was a little more interesting and Telluride was kick arse. Would definitely go back to visit Silverton and Telluride for non-4x4 related reasons.

I won't be at GOX next year, too many other places across the country to visit. The calendar is too full already (with more technical locations).

I'll make it more clear on the GOX website then

GOX is not a hardcore 4 wheeling event, it's 1/3 wheeling, 1/3 scenery and 1/3 partying. Still, a 2WD at 13k feet with no low range will have a lot of trouble, and will cause a lot of dust and trail damage.

It's not all easy though, I recall at least a dozen broken Xterras on Poughkeepsie. Did you get up it unscathed ?

We went through Poughkeepsie and the dreaded "Wall" without a problem. Completely unscathed. 1-2 re-positions at most and all were running open-diff.

A little more information about the trails on the website would be useful.

A 2wd w/o low range could easily do Alpine Loop, Cinnamon Pass, Minnie Gulch, Ophir Pass, Imogene Pass, and the Yankee Boy Basin (with possibly a little help). The others, a 4wd in high will suffice.

Is there any mounatin biking near where everyone camps/stays? I am trying to make a plan for labor day. Thanks -

I doubt it. Several times I was in 4wheel high and barely made it up several hills. You would need 4wheel low to prevent trail damage. Sorry to hear you were unimpressed but I was very. Yeah not the hardest trails I have been on but like Ian said it's not about the trails. I would say 1/2 trails/scenery and 1/2 social gathering/party.

There is something about the San Juans that make me want to keep going back.. we made it the first 2 years but missed it in 02. We just may have to show up for the friends and good times for next event. Just pretend the Rover is an X with a birth defect

Weeet !!!

It's no WRX (I tried) but it's fun a hell and almost as quick.

You didn't try hard enough, the price difference is only $500.

Uhh.. that's not what I meant. I tried to convince the better half that we should get the WRX but she couldn't get past the looks. We also got the Type S for $1300 under invoice.

Son of a bit.........my wife is the same. Says she would not drive a WRX! DOH, and they have yellow! Would match the X nicley.

Is it GOX yet, Is it GOX yet, Is it GOX yet?

Is it GOX now, now, now, Is it GOX NOW!

Time for a divorce

Well.....I am truly gonna try and make it this year. I want to meet some of these XOC folks.

In advance....if anyone from the eastern part of the country wants to start thinking about a caravan, PM me or post here and we can start thinking about logistics. Also if anyone wants to start thinking about sharing accomodations, post it here as well, or PM me. I've seen the great photos and fun gatherings enough to finally convince me to make the trip.

Well thanks for the info. Most of the WTXC is making plans to attend this years GOX so I'll take my little 4X2 and see where it take me, I'll probobaly just park it a ride with one of the 4x4 thanks again

Is Ivan going again this year? He was fun to watch on the wall last year

I'm not sure but last time we talked, it came up so that's probably who I'm going to ride with if I park the X

I'm not sure but last time we talked, it came up so that's probably who I'm going to ride with if I park the X

If he is then when we get to the wall again we need to make sure that EVERYONE asks him if he remembered to take his E-brake off.

Check this post, http://www.xterraownersclub.com/cgi-local/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=55;t=000204 maybe the east coasters can meet up with midwest and have one huge honkin' x-caravan.

P.S. Ian, unfortunately if we got a WRX I would have to knock out a front tooth and move to a trailer park. And Chris doesn't have enough hair to grow a mullet!

she's not coming to GOX.

Yep...I'll post over there. Thanks for the heads up. I'd love to start gathering some folks from back East. Could be a long lonely drive all bt my lonesome. The wife probably would not come. And I don't think the 8 month old baby would be too fond of the trip. (Not yet....but someday).

I'm gonna go this year for sure. I'm gettin' all excited. Can't wait. 1143 mile / 20 hour drive one way!

Yeah and this is a big deal how 1300 miles here and I am not the farthest.

Go to hell you bastards I am not here to amuse you. I HATE ALL OF YOU!!!!!

Need a chain for your spare

I think he's still a little sour about that whole ordeal.

You guy's forgot that in addition to releasing the E-brake, to make sure that you also look to make sure that Ivan Locks his front hubs so that he is in 4WD unlike the first part of Hell's Revenge.

VaderX did well even in 2WD.

Todd

me has to feel like slackerx. there nuthing like runnings shine in the Appalachianses with my truck.

i was sad and mad at the easyness of the roads. i didn't even saw any possum too shoot and eat. i only see cows, but no possum. ( althogh, ther was a ded cow on Berr Town road that was cool to see.)

yew boys don't now whut it like to 4wd with the ATF hawling ass after yew in the Appalachianes at night. now that is fun and hard.

i did like tawking and funnin with Xterra owners frum across the countrie. but, it wusn't enough to perswade me to come back. i did win sum cool stuff at the hamburger picnic and the smell of the hot springs remind me of home but i will not be coming back to Colorado. it wusn't to my standardes.

I'm just kidding. I know quite a few people from the South and they are nothing like the above post. Just a joke.

That cow was sleeping, not dead.

Yeah, it had eaten a REALLY big meal and took a nap becuase it was SO FULL . Then we saw the Llama Man and had Rainbow Man go swimming in the lake.

Such were the days......

Todd

what kind of $$$ do you guys think i would need in savings for this x-capade?

$50 a day plus lodging usually works, but it can be done cheaper.

2 nights include free food with the SWXC Chili Cookout and CALMINI BBQ. Dinner at the Outlaw can run $20 per person plus $100 for drinks. Restaurants range from cheap to 4-star expensive.

Now that's $100 per day for drinks? Right?

Give or take a few dollars yes.

BTW for the record I left Illinois with a little over 500 dollars and made it back with around 30.00 or so. That includes gas, hotel for one night during the trek out, and then food and drink for the whole time, and gifts for family and friends. My lodging had already been paid for before we left.

I'm in for GOX this year. We might have a small X caravan from indy...

GOX is a blast. The trails are very scenic and all the old ruins add to the atmosphere. As far as the 4 wheeling, the trails are somewhat different and all have challanging sections, especially Black Bear.

The social "gatherings", with different folk from all over the country, are unique to say the least.

See you in 03,

Ivor

i think XOC is a blast as well but i think you mean GOX

GIFTS FOR FAMILY AND FRIENDS!??? Like hell there are getting any of MY beer.

where do most people stay? I'd like to make a res. if I can.

Check Ouray Colorado\'s Website for lodging and other info.

If anyone out there needs some local info let me know, I live 45 minutes away from Ouray. And since you will be only 45 minutes away from Telluride, anyone who's got an extra day you HAVE to come check this little town out.

Have a day.

Oh when we make the black bear pass we stop in. From what I hear its a nice little town.

With the recent events, is it safe to say that GOX is still going to happen?

Even if Ian didn't go I think most of us would still show up anyway.
It's just better when Ian plans it.

That's good news. I'm planning on going and it takes a bit of planning to get there from Virginia. I'm really looking forward to it.

Steve

I don't understand, recent events? Did I miss something is Ian NOT going to GOX this time?

I'll be there.

Does that mean HXOC can stay in Denver at your pad again?

Yes, just bring more beer this year.

More beer aye

There is still plenty for a 2WD to do there regardless of what "they" say.