So are the dates for GOX 3 set yet. I wanna be able to start planning next year.

Just guessing here, but it probably won't be Labor Day and it probably won't be July 4th.
July 4th is crowded. A small number do Moab after, so that won't be a concern(heat and all).
I would guess it will be around the middle of August sometime.
Again, just a guess. Ian will now shred any logic I may have tried to spew!
Oh yeah and

The only problem with Labor Day week is the number of college students who can't attend due to classes.

we care about college kids? they drink all the beer!

Don't care of the Date I will be there!!

I'm in college and I went anyway.
I skipped one week of classes to go to GOX,
a small price to pay IMHO.
It's not that hard to make up classes as long as you plan ahead.

The only reason I want GOX moved before Labor day is because I'm planning to be on a house boat at Lake Powell on labor day weekend.

I am a college student and i wont be drinking all the beer. But i dont want to miss any school either.

Since 70% of the work I do takes place between July 15th and September 15th, I guess I am like the proverbial armless, legless man thrown into the ocean.

Sorry for the bad-humor, but I love road trips and this one would be great. But I will likely never get to attend.

I work for a university in public safety, I'm also a student. I don't mind missing a week of classes so much although I would prefer not to. My problem is they won't give us the 1st two weeks of fall semester off or the first week of winter and summer semesters.

Maybe if I invite the Chief to go with....

[ 10-02-2001: Message edited by: Xrugger ]

I'd like to make it to GOX3 next year.Hope my underway schedule doesn't interfere with it (USS Constellation CV64, "America's Flagship").Course it all depends on what happens with getting rid of the terrorists between now and then too.

From a family man stand point, my two boys would like to come along so lets have it before school starts in late August.

Yeah.. Early August would be even better(school starts real early here, like Aug. 20).. I would love to go to GOX 3 so I can pick Ian's vast wealth of knowledge..

And kick Primary's ass.. :p

Hmmm... you're making the huge assumption that Primary would actually show up. Remember, he really has a 4Runner, so it's doubtful he'll ever show his face around us.
:p

I really don't care when GOX is. I'll make it again if I can, and if I can't then it's my loss. It's really not our choice to decide when it is unless Ian decides to let us all vote. So for now, I'll just wait for him to pick what's best for him. Everyone needs to remember that no matter when it is, there will always be people who can't make it, so it's pointless to try to find the ideal week for EVERYONE.

That's true Mindie.. But then again, I'm the kind of person that only cares about what's best for me, I could care about everybody else.. :p

Aw, come on Primary, I really want you to come!!

Right-on! As a 29-year-old college kid I would love to make it out next year

Well, to be honest, at whatever time GOX is scheduled, somebody somewhere, and somehow is not going to be able to make it. I don't care when it is. I just know that I WILL be there !!

Sometime early August would be great, kids saw the video we shot of GOX II and want to be part of the next one.

"Life is an adventure to be lived"

ECUDave, we need to hook up on the way and trail each other. I am gonna make a hell of an effort to get there.

Say, what's up with the Pirates this year? I thought they were supposed to be the class of the C-USA?? Hell, who really is???

Hell, I still haven't figured out whats wrong with them this year.. All I know is, is that they've given 2 games away this year and the injuries are killing us. Anyway, I hope you can make it to GOX III. The wife and I are planning on it. Our Xterra club just got back from the outer banks this past Sunday. Unfortunately, I was unable to attend, so I had to say them all!! LOL. Join up with us sometime for a local X-cursion. We're planning on running Uwharrie National Forrest next month. Later

I've already made plans to explore Colorado, Wyoming and Montana following GOX 3. But only if it's during the summer because my son would like to go and mom won't let him miss 2 weeks of school if it's after Labor Day. :rolleyes:

i would like to know... i gotta figure out how to make GOXIII and also i need to plan WEST X 02 with enough space between them so more people can make both

I can't wait to see if any lame ass Liberty's will be out at GOXIII. What a secretaries car...

GOX is X only...

the only non-x's were support vehicles from some of the manufacturers

Anybody know yet what the dates will be? I know this has been asked :rolleyes: , just checking to see if there are any updates.

Labor Day week 2002.

gotta cater to the masses...

majority rules...

now i gotta make plans for WEST X '02... and figure out how to swing GOX...

See you all in Ouray

Okay I am confused... this is what I have calculated from reading all of this post... Ian's word is the final word but it is not the "majority" as you say... at least as far as I can see in this post. I guess I must have missed something.

Neutral (8 people)

Jackel
ashleynatlanta
redeyeX
mindie
ECUDave
Todrick
Couch-4-Sale
Xcited

Labor Day Week/No (11 people)
bn300
xoc (09/24/2001)
Kerensky97/NOXCAPE
ChiaSWXC/TNAC
Xrugger
off2cjb
TatsuoX
Snoopy
Exnatalia
debgary
LAXterra

Labor Day Week/Yes (2 people)
Matt Peckham
xoc (12/08/2001)

Labor Day - Yes! I hope I can work out my schedule at work to escape the office.
Even for non-College people time off is still a challenge. There will never be a good time for all.
The great thing is that people can arrive early if they choose, spend some time in Colorado, enjoy 4-wheeling, then participate in activities.

well if it really matters...

let me rephrase... and holiday week is best for me... be it Labor day, or July 4th(as GOX1 was)...

in all honesty more people will be able to make it on labor day week then wont be able to make it... that was the point of my post...

i dont think ian ever voted NO on Labor day... in fact the impression i got was more of a

"i would like it to be labor day, the only problem is that college students..."

no matter what date he sets some people will not be able to attend... at least with 9 months of notice there wont be the problem i had with WEST X(not enough notice) and hopefully people can plan ahead and attend

Well not to be argumentative but Ian had taken things other then just college students and people with kids into consideration earlier...i.e. weather. That is what is going to dictate when I organize the 140 mile Mojave Road trip in 2002.



An another consideration of weather



The above can be referenced HERE . Nothing was left out... I included the entire qoute.

But I guess something has changed... that is why I was earlier.

But like I said earlier...

Except for July 4th, Labor Day is the only Summer holiday.

Having GOX during the Labor Day week allows people 9 days off, by only taking 4 off work. Those 9 days allow 2 full days on each end of the week for travel to and from Ouray.

Trailing August, the weather should always be superb, unless a freak storm dumps a ton of snow. It's a chance I'll take, since fresh snow doesn't close a trail as much as snow that has been sitting frozen on a trail for 6 months (what happens in July).

College students may miss out, but GOX should be there when they graduate.

Hey GOX happens very early in the school year when it is still feasible to miss some days. I took the full week off and attended gox. I had no problems making up the work. It is all about how determined you are to attend.
We go to college to get degrees, we get degrees to make more money, we make more money so we can afford nice trucks, we want nice trucks so we can go play. I figure screw it I will skip a bunch of steps and play now.

As far as people with kids I understand their concern. On the other hand how much more will your children learn about the world by traveling and enjoying nature, rather than sitting in a room passing notes and ignoring their teachers.

I still don't care I'll be there.

thanks ian for explaining...

im with Jackel...

i dont care when i plan to be there... i just cant miss three in a row

Just to point something out. Some schools do have a policy where if you don't show to the first week of class they drop you. Mine is one such school.

But your right, you have to prioritize. As far as school goes, I can probably get permission from my one Prof to miss that week. But for someone taking multiple classes it may be alot harder to get that permission.

The hard part for me is getting that time off from work. I work in Public Safety at a university, and getting time off during that week is very hard. I might just have to call in sick every day from Colorado.

Personally I'd rather take 5 days off, insted of 4 days with the holiday. I get paid alot to work the holiday.

No matter when it is schedule, hopefully I will be out ther with eveyone this year.

What are the exact dates of that week. I need to start petitioning for the time off from school and work now!

Labor day is on Monday Sept 2nd

Your computer should have some sort of calendar on it somewhere

I skipped he first week of school the last time and I'll do it again, it's worth it.

When you talk to your professors just tell them that you won't be there, and you'll be having a great time in Colorado. They'll understand.

I deserve that. I couldn't remeber if Labor Day was the first or second Monday.

Cool, I'm there (now, I'm just waiting on specific details..but I know it's really early for that at this point)

I'm going to make plans to be there. Just waiting for the details

Hopefully this year Ian will do something to avoid all the "I'll be there's" that don't show. If you're serious about going, send Ian $25 and when you get to Ouray he'll give you back a 20 spot, don't show and you get zip, nada, zero, nothing (nada, as in nada damn thing).

Just trying to help you out Ian

I'll be there, when do you want my deposit?

I would support either a deposit or registration fee. The work that went into the event is enourmous.

Looking forward towards GOX. Hopefully other events will be scheduled for this spring in warmer/lower climates.

Were do I send my Money

Registration fee is a good idea, maybe include something if you actually show up to receive it. Like a mug or something. Natta return on money or gift if no show.

Shoot I have my GOX fund going already. I probably need to send that to someone each week to keep it from my wife. Let's see which one of you guys is trustworthy........

I would be down for a deposit or whatever.

Marshall

Sorry for the stupid newbie input, but I'm assuming you guys are going to Ouray for GOX3. I've been going to that area every summer for 14 years. Ian is right. In July, very few of the passes will be open. You won't be able to run Imogene, Black Bear, Poughkeepsie or probably even most of the Alpine Loop. I realize that for a lot of people with children in school (or those that are attending themselves) Labor Day isn't the optimal time for you, but any other time of the year in that part of the country, the trails are pretty much closed if you want to do the entire trail.

Two cents,
Sean

Usually it's just Black Bear and Poughkeepsie that are still snow covered.

The Alpine Loop trails and Imogene are plowed every year, and open by Memorial Day.

The original GOX was held over 4th of July 2000, and everything was open, but it was a low snow year for Colorado.

I went end of July about 3 years ago and Imogene was still being plowed towards the top of the pass. Everything else was open though. Guess it depends on the year.
Sean

Hmm, how about a GOX3 Bumper sticker? Or a T-shirt (well, maybe not that as a gift)?

If we are going to do a deposit, I'm in. When I send it just depends on how much and when you need it buy (kinda short on cash due to college expenditures right now, will be fine soon (hopefully))

Had both last year.
Ian gave the stickers free, Paul made the T-Shirts and they sold for about $15-20.

I still think all GOX attendees sould have a GOX button placed under their screen names here on the XOC.

Im new to this site. Was reading about GOX. I would like to be involved in this. Does anyone know when and where it will be? And Im up for a deposit. :rolleyes:

GOX is always in Ouray, and like last year, it will be Labor Day week.

Last years GOX info is here... http://www.xterraownersclub.com/gox2/index.html and has enough information to keep you happy until I post the new site.

I'd go for that button thing under the name! Ouray was a blast! Maybe I'll get to GOXIV. Being a student this year will suck up all my cash!!!