I'm all for group agreements on stat categories.

As for joining both leagues, I'd rather leave some spots open so others can join in, but do what ya gotta do. As long as they're both full and we have year long participation by the owners involved, I gots no beef.

I joined both, but willing to drop out of one or the other as space and needs dictate.

I also joined both, but am willing to drop out of league #2 if need be.

We can't have 2 champions.

I'm in the second league... the only one that matters.

Why do we have two 10 team leagues instead of one 20 team league?! I still don't quite understand that one.

hahaha, oh man...have fun being the Commish of the XOC baseball league! Regretting it yet?? Why don't you guys all make your own leagues, I'm sure there are plenty of people on here that would sign up. Yes, I'm being serious, don't have a huff-puff, this way people can select the pool that they think is best, sign up for multiple leagues and/or if someone doesn't sign up in time they'l still have other pools to join. I personally think two 20 team leagues would be fine, one head to head the other rotisserie(best of both worlds.)

I agree with Big E - 2 different style leagues makes more sense than 2 leagues set up the exact same way...

I agree with this. That's why I questioned two 10 team leagues. I don't think a 10 team league is big enough. Last year, BigE was adding people left and right because of all of us slackers that saw the threads too late(Thanks again E!! I enjoyed taking last place )

People weren't exactly supposed to join BOTH leagues. I set up the leagues very quickly in hopes of having a night draft time as the draft time slots were filling up fast.

I can change them to 12 team leagues, but I ain't touching a 20 team league. Oh HELL naw!

As for a ROTO league, every time I've played in one the bottom few teams quit playing after 1 or 2 months thinking either they couldn't catch up in points, or left due to boredom since there's basically no shit talking in a points league. Head to head seems to keep people in the game longer. Atleast here in XOC world.

If someone else wants to start up a ROTO league I have no doubt it'd feel up quick. Just not something I'm interested in being commish of.

Head to head is the only way I will play. It keeps your interest a lot longer and a few good weeks get you right back into it.

Now about that stats discussion.

Hitter stats IMO should include:

Hits, runs, doubles, triples, home runs, walks, OPS, RBI's. (these stats AT LEAST should be included)

Pitching stats should include wins, strikeouts, INNINGS PITCHED,saves, ERA, WIP. (At least these should be included)

Innings pitched was an important stat that WAS NOT included last year. I hope that it is this time around.

These are by no means the only stats that can or should be included, but I feel they are the ones that NEED to be included.

Thoughts?

I agree that IP is an important pitching stat...gauges how strong your SP horses are and can be tied into minimum/maximum requirements...OPS is nto important to me, I would rather have SB as they change the drafts and allow different approaches to win as not all players will egt enough SB to make a difference...I would loose ERA and WHIP form pitching and add CG and CGSO as they are more rare and harder to get......but that is just MHO

I am not a fan of the ROTO scoring setup as was alreayd mentioned some get bored quick...the straight fantasy points setup is my preference for baseball bas the season is so long...especially with a 20 team league or something...I find H2H can get boring after so long as well, but you can almost always catch up in the FP setup...

Whatever, I am in league #1 and intend to win either way!

Now, with two divisions, how will the ultimate XOC champ be determined?!?

Thunderdome!!!!
Two man enter, one man leave. Two man enter, one man leave. Two man enter, one man leave. (there's a good "yo momma" joke in that hahaha)

That is why I was thinking haveing a H2H league and a FP league...two totally different games and approaches, two different titles.....the the two champs can face off in the thunderdome!!!

Not trying to step on your toes Primary XTC, just giving the people what they want, I hope. Primary, I hope you sign up I don't mean to be a dick or anything.

League ID# is 67316
Password-xterra

20 teams, head to head, more stats than last year and a league name that Nismo will like.

Damnit, I don't care what gay ass title your league has since I'll be playing a game that represents a real sport, I just care how the official XOC winner is determined. I don't want there to be any crying or controversy when I win again.

I didn't look yet but I'm sure I know what your team name is. If you can think of anything that everyone was complaining about in the pool last year, just let me know!

To help remember last year, maybe THIS will help.

Big E - any chance to move the Draft Time -

That's right in the middle of 24!!!!!

Is it over at 10? Don't think about having it Tuesday! The Shield is on! I might push the date up 2-3 weeks, I got a little excited about baseball and just wanted to get my players.

The first few pages make for some entertaining reading! If anyone knows of any mysterious confusion where Yahoo doesn't add up the stats so that we have to do it manually, just let me know. :p

Yeah 24 is over at 10.

Good thing you like the Shield too...

Might have to invite you over for one of those shows sometime...

With me being in last place last year, doesn't that mean I get the first pick in the draft?!?