Can anyone please post pics of their truck after doing a PML (tbar crank and shackles)? I'm trying to decide if I should just do the PML or also do a 2" body lift. The BL of course will add a lot of work but I'm trying to see how big of a differnce it'd make. I'm not going for performance here, just appearance. I'm sure 33's will fit fine w/ a PML & BL but what about with just a PML? Is anything past 32's pushing it?

Oh and if you have a PML & 2" body lift pics would be great as well.

This is with a PML (Calmini shackles) and 32X11.5X15 BFG AT/KOs.

higher pic = without PML
lower pic = with PML... or PWL in my case
like my tiny tires?

Unfortunately, I didn't get much pics of just my PML, it was only on for a week before I tackled the BL

Here's a pic of mine with 32's and no lift.

Here's a pic of mine with the same tires, just a PML and a 2" BL


and install pics front and rear: (notice the amount of arrival/departure angles that can be obtained with bumper modification

32x11.50 BGF AT KO's and shackle lift. I added Sway-a-Way torsion bars as well.

For those of you with 32's do you feel like you could go any bigger?

Thanks for all the pics guys, keep em comin.

PML and 2" body lift with 33"

Simple at home project.
You need:
four peices of 2x3/8" Steel 8" long
Drill, and bolt in place of OEM shackle. Use spacers (3 SAE washers) in place of bends. If you want more information I'll post it. I have part drawings if you need them.




Bigger tires? 33 might work, rubbing becomes an issue if you enter a steep driveway at an angle on a daily basis. I have 32's and trimed out the wheel well as much as neccisary to make that work, cant remeber if there is more room

Here is mine...Just did it this morning.....

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Looks VERY Awesome! YAY for new tires!!

I think so, I've got absolutely no rubbing/clearance issues at all with 32's, even under full stuffage. I also haven't trimmed or cut anything off.

Nice color!! Good to see more Hot Lava on here!!

Just got new scoots to go with the PML
BFG 265/70/17's.....they just barely rub making a full u-turn. need to trim a plastic tab off, and will fix that.

New Pic:

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33x10.5 Superswamper TSL Radials with a PML. Removal of plastic in front and behind front tires.

PML with stock tires:



PML with 32" tires

I'm not going to go any bigger. I just don't see the need for the off-roading I do. Though it appears that there is room for more (in a static position only), for me it wouldn't be worth it to go to 33s. Even though I am going to get UCAs to get the full range of motion back (some day), i'm really happy with the tires I selected, both for the size and type.

Besides, they're brand new and paid for.

I've got 265/70/17's with no shackle or t-bar mods and NO RUBBING even under full lock. Why did you need shackles and whatnot?

I have these same 265/70/17 tires and mine DO rub occasionally and I have no lift so go figure..

I also did some trimming, and the rubbing happens sometimes in reverse at full turn, like when pulling out of a parking spot... Who knows, maybe my t-bars are saggin, although I doubt it at 45k

Did I need the PML?...Well no, but for $50 bucks and a couple hours of my time, I like the extra clearance and the way it looks.

Well, for that price...why not!! I do admit it looks nice. Any change with suspension action in front with cranked t bars? My front bounces a bit due to insufficient rebound damping on the stock shocks due to the brush guard. I am looking to go to a Built Bilstein or other type of shock. I was thinking of cranking up the front 1".

Yup. You'll like the result of doing the PML. The big problem is, after you do it, you'll just want to go all the way with the rest of the 3" lift.

The one factor when talking tires is that they are just like the shoes we wear. They don't all fit exactly the same even though they are listed as the same size. Manufacturers have differing tolerances. The block pattern of the tread plays a role in how well a tire will clear. A BFG AT has a square profile as compared to the POS Grabbers that came on the truck with their rounded profile.

Rob

PML (AALs) with 32s

Very true, I got my PML in march, getting a 2" BL and then the 3" SL after that. It's funny to think that 1.5" makes a difference but it does.

FWIW, thoguht I'd share some shots of my X with the PML on the travel ramp at SLR. (Thanks again, SLR, for hosting Destination Xterra.) Calmini shakles and the rear sway bar is disconnected. Did better than I thought I would, though it doesn't seem like as much when looking at the pics I guess. Could've gotten a skosh more with longer shocks, but they're on the way!

They're a bit dark (no flash) but the rear wheel stuffed it pretty good. Wheels/tires are 32X11.5X15 on AR Baja Chromes w/5" backspacing.