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#423395 - 23/09/01 02:21 PM What would be the going rate?
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I have 5 SSR's one brand new never touched pavement, and the others have unnder 5k on them. My question is what should I ask for them? I want to put an add in the local paper, but honestly dont have a clue what to ask. What would be a logical price? Please let me know thanks.

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#423396 - 23/09/01 06:10 PM Re: What would be the going rate?
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Out of curiosity why are you selling them? I'm not sure of a going rate, but don't expect a great deal.

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#423397 - 23/09/01 06:28 PM Re: What would be the going rate?
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Wanna go bigger

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#423398 - 23/09/01 07:37 PM Re: What would be the going rate?
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Let me know what you ask for them as I was thinking of buying a set. Just curious, what size are you trying to move up to?
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#423399 - 23/09/01 08:21 PM Re: What would be the going rate?
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Im going to guess....33x13.50 MT Baja Claws? Am I right?
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#423400 - 23/09/01 09:19 PM Re: What would be the going rate?
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HEHE how did you know ?

And i dont know I would like $575 but i doubt i get it. But then again 5 new ones will cost you almost $900 from 4wheelpartswholesalers.

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#423401 - 24/09/01 06:06 AM Re: What would be the going rate?
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Bigger? I thought you were moving to a more street-friendly tire?
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#423402 - 24/09/01 07:05 AM Re: What would be the going rate?
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SSR I assume you are installing another lift for these tires right? You are only running a 3" suspension lift and the 32x11.5 SSR's(really a 33 x 11.5) which is the same tire I am running(6" of lift) and I know for a fact without running a 3" suspension and at least a 2" body lift with the proper offset(4.75 or 4.5") rims they will rub. In fact I have it on video of my truck rubbing a slight bit at GOX so I had to trim a bit more plastic and will adjust my torsion bars now that they have settled. What I am getting at is you talked about a more street friendly tire and now you want to go bigger with a tire that is just as aggressive as the SSR's...plus now you have to carry two spares since they are directional tires. Just trying to give you some guidance, but they will not work on the X...they have a casing width of 13" and besides they are not even a raidal tire...talk about a horrible ride on the road!
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#423403 - 24/09/01 07:29 AM Re: What would be the going rate?
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yeah, but if you sell them, will that make you XSSRXterra?

All too confusing... stick with them. Anyone who says their tires aren't big enough is probably choosing the wrong lines, or has an inferiority complex....
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#423404 - 24/09/01 08:14 AM Re: What would be the going rate?
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Quote:
Originally posted by matt peckham:
or has an inferiority complex....


Like me!?!?!? :p
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#423405 - 24/09/01 08:47 AM Re: What would be the going rate?
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Originally posted by stormy:


Like me!?!?!? :p


exactly.

I have one too... I need to lift the front of my X. wink
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#423406 - 24/09/01 09:23 AM Re: What would be the going rate?
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FSRBiker,
I have had a 3" body lift laying around that my father wouldnt allow me to put on but is now allowing it so the claws will fit fine. I have an old set of BFG mud terrains in a 32x11.50 size that came off my old toyota. They arent old at all and were taken off the toy because they were origionaly intended for the X. And these will go on in the place of the SSR's and im going to run the claws on the black steel wheels so they will only be used when off roading. Not to worried about the wear life, and street ride of them.

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#423407 - 24/09/01 11:14 AM Re: What would be the going rate?
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THe Mickey Thompson site sucks but I found some specs for you on the 33x13.5 Claws...they are the same height as the SSR's but 3 FULL INCHES wider than the SSR...I don't see how you can ever fit this tire with only 6" of lift but send us some pictures when you do. I don't want to see you waste your money so I am trying to help you out, you might be ok on the street if you can somehow get the tires to turn outside the wheelwell(they will hit real bad behind the tire and you might only be able to drive straight) but offroad you will not stuff the tire in the rear ever(break out the sawzall) and up front you will not have any plastic and maybe less sheet metal left behind the tire. I know the radials are more expensive but look at the 33x12.5 Radial Claw...you should be ok with these but I can't find any specs on them. Black Rock Crawlers in 4.75 backspacing will not work since you will hit the torsion bar anchors, the only others left are 4" backspacing which will now force the tire into hitting the plastic behind the front tire even more and give you problems stuffing the tire in the rear...you should get some 4.5" backspaced wheels made for the 12.5's..the 13.5's I don't know what will help you out. Just my .02 but believe me I did a lot of research on tire/rim sizes that will work on the X....as well as read and see what does not work.
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#423408 - 24/09/01 11:53 AM Re: What would be the going rate?
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or, now this might be a shock...

he could keep the SSRs on all the time and be damn happy. They should be nice enough, and they don't exhibit any of the characteristics that these wider tires are going to cause. Guess you haven't seen the AC Xterra with 6" of lift and a set of 12.5" ProComp MTs. it looked wicked ass stupid, and just plain fragile offroad. break any tierods yet? better get skilled at replacing them. Sorry, there is a limit to what the Xterra can handle, and the wheel wells are the limiting factor. unless you are going for a solid axle swap, you should avoid any huge tires. the solid axle swap will give you much stronger steering components, which is what you will need when you get some 13.5" tires on there. how about 13.5 in the rear and 11.5 in the front? sorta like a street rod....

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#423409 - 24/09/01 01:06 PM Re: What would be the going rate?
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The 13.5" width will never fit on an Xterra.

You will severely limit your turning radius, as the tires will rub the upper and lower control arms.

Rear articulation will suffer because the tire will hit the body long before the suspension is compressed.

If you go to a wider rim, with more offset, you will stress the suspension and steering components beyond what they are capable of.

Don't waste your time and money.
Going bigger just because it looks cool is not what 4 wheeling is about.
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#423410 - 24/09/01 01:23 PM Re: What would be the going rate?
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ditto.

your truck looks good with the SSRs. What possible reason would you have for running fatter crappier tires? If you can't get through a section with SSRs and a lift, I don't think that getting wider tires is going to give you much of an edge. It will limit your abilities in more places than the .5% of stuff that they will help with. If you still can't get through the stuff, you might try adding one of these to your Xterra.
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#423411 - 24/09/01 01:39 PM Re: What would be the going rate?
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Not to mention robbing your engine of even more power.

So to do this you have to make your truck top heavy, unable to turn, sluggish, and ruin your articulation. All in the name of going offroad?

Huh?
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#423412 - 24/09/01 01:41 PM Re: What would be the going rate?
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I can't find anything of value to say here, it's all been said already. but, I would like to say ...

KNUCKLEHEAD.

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#423413 - 24/09/01 07:38 PM Re: What would be the going rate?
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Yeah Kevin, if I had you X, I would never dream of going higher or bigger. You have the best looking X in Texas. Hell, you have the best looking X on this board. If you really wanted to do some damage you could just get an extra set of baja belted and be unstoppable in the sand too.

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#423414 - 24/09/01 08:09 PM Re: What would be the going rate?
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Man, that is the problem with alot of people on here...everybody is concerned with looks alone. As is, he's probably rubbing with the 32 SSRs when disco'd in the front and rear and he wants to go bigger for looks alone? It seems everytime I browse through posts on XOC I see a new thread on how somebody just mounted a set of swampers for "occasional offroad use" This shit is out of hand.

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#423415 - 24/09/01 08:33 PM Re: What would be the going rate?
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I don't think it's out of hand to have a spare set, if you got the money, they will be better off road if you don't drive them daily, and they will suck on road, so what's the point? I have 2 sets of tires, and may switch in the winter just so I don't wear the knobs down. of course, I am talking stock tires and 31s, not 32s and 33, 13.5s...

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#423416 - 24/09/01 08:44 PM Re: What would be the going rate?
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I think you need a set of these. they may rob your Xterra of a little power though...

they are only a little bigger, 37".



oh, I guess I didn't mention, that's wide! I couldn't even guess how tall they are, but each probably weighs more than an Xterra.
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#423417 - 24/09/01 08:58 PM Re: What would be the going rate?
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Matt, I agree with you about having 2 sets of tires...not a bad idea. In an ideal world I'd run ATs daily and Swampers for trail runs. My post was primarily directed at those who run swampers based on the look alone. However, to each his own. Its not my money.

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#423418 - 24/09/01 09:26 PM Re: What would be the going rate?
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Ok so it was a dumb idea, and even my shop told me. You know how guys get, we get dumb idea's that only we our self's think can work. Anyway Im now looking at a set of 33x10.50 BFG MT's and I hope this is something that will be more suitable and work better. In my opinion they should work with the 3" body in place. Not a bad tire for the long trips home after the trail ride either. The claws are no more I can say the entire board helped me see the light.

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#423419 - 24/09/01 09:35 PM Re: What would be the going rate?
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I would like to point out that this entire thread really has only 2 posts concerning the buying and selling of SSRXterra's SSRs, and I haven't seen Climber (the moderator for this forum) post on this board in a long time, can you move this to the tires and suspension forum, Ian? It has some good info, but really has nothing to do with buying and selling.

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#423420 - 24/09/01 09:44 PM Re: What would be the going rate?
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Originally posted by Rebel:
In an ideal world I'd run ATs daily and Swampers for trail runs.


Ahhhh......then enter my world Grasshopper. laugh
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#423421 - 24/09/01 10:01 PM Re: What would be the going rate?
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I run my 31" TSL's on the weekends and Grabbers the rest of the time! Lot easier to commute with street tires!
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#423422 - 24/09/01 10:39 PM Re: What would be the going rate?
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Originally posted by SSRXterra:
Anyway Im now looking at a set of 33x10.50 BFG MT's and I hope this is something that will be more suitable and work better.


Again, I must say "Why?"

Have you found any trail yet that you couldn't drive because you had 1/2" less ground clearance ?

Do you need less power and torque ?

Do you need worse mileage ?

You have a perfectly good set of Swampers, why not try wheeling with them for a year before replacing them ?
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#423423 - 25/09/01 06:19 AM Re: What would be the going rate?
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Prolly cause they wouldn't last a year. I think what Kevin had in mind, was having the claws for offroading, and switching to his spare BFGs(32s) for commuting. Now I think he just wants to run BFGs(33s) all the time. I think it is a wise choice. Since the SSRs run big, he would basically be going to the same height of tire. The tire would just be 1" slimmer, and would prolly help with the rubbing. So there prolly wouldn't be any loss in power or mpg. If anything I would think he would gain.

I lost power and mileage when I went to a wider but shorter tire. If Kevin can sell the SSRs and get BFGs, they will last a lot longer, so they will be better in the long run.

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#423424 - 25/09/01 06:35 AM Re: What would be the going rate?
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ok, so, why not get a spare set of stock tires for daily driving. that way the swampers can be his offroad tires. OR... get a set of 31" trxus which you will be happy enough with onroad, and you will be more than happy with offroad, if you get the itch to wheel without switching. Buying Mud Terrains as a street tire is totally silly. Not saying that is what you are suggesting. What are you suggesting?

BTW, the 37.00R57 tires are 135.6" in diameter, and they cost about 25-30K each.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it!

Oh yeah, I remember them stating that they were 23 ply. And they still had monstrous tears in the lugs.
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#423425 - 25/09/01 06:56 AM Re: What would be the going rate?
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Tons of people run mud terrains as a street tire. I always run them. Running boggers or claws as a street tire is silly. Does anyone know what size the stock tires were? I can't remember. I am thinking about getting a set of cheapo grabbers for long trips.

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#423426 - 25/09/01 07:03 AM Re: What would be the going rate?
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Kevin I still don't understand your thinking, you already have 32x11.5 BFG Muds that you can use for everyday driving and Swampers for offroad so why, why would you now want to buy more tires? The 33x10.5 BFG's in my opinion are not a great choice for an X with 6" of lift either(especially offroad), you need the added width since your center of gravity is now higher...in fact you should have no problem running the 33x10.5 BFG's WITHOUT the body lift so if that's your choice on tires don't install the body lift-go with 33x12.5 BFG Mud's if you install the body lift. But again WHY? You tell me you are going to college and can't waste money but then want to blow money on tires when you already have a perfect combination of on/off road tires with the 32" BFG's and 32" SSR's.

OK here is the bottom line from me: sell both sets of tires you have, install the 3" body lift and buy 33x12.5 BFG KM's....now you have the height you want and a tire you can get 45,000+ miles out of.
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