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#48338 - 13/11/06 09:22 PM
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So i paid around 25+ or so grand new for an xe loaded in 00 with all the cool accesssories and crap. ...hey they were hot then. I traded in a loaded convertible 300zx for it.
Hit 90k on my 2000 X this week, Anyways...i dont sit in daily traffic, highway to work 1 stop light no traffic, 100 miles / day. Mostly highway trips. I bought the X because I do alot of diving for work and needed something for my gear, the no frills interior seemed a good choice. Heck for the first few years my X sat mostly in my garage with highway trips as i was working from home. Point is my rides dont get beat to crap in a daily commute like most people..I have 2 camry's in the household I've gone through 1 with 265k miles, 1 with 190k miles...nothing but o2,s and cats replaced. Impeccable maintenance. My tires & brakes last over 60k+ miles a time...i just recently put my first set of tires on the X about 10-15k ago!
Anyways only problem I've had until now (90k) was the common ac hose or condenser burst.
Anyways my wife drives it now it have a few cars so haven't read up anything X in few years, and i hear to me what sounds like an exaust manifold leak. So i say wierd..log on to the net and SURE AS $HI% the net is loaded with cracked exaust manifolds.
i say hey...no biggie right 2 problems, every japanese maker is having manifold cracks these days including toyota on the tacoma and tundras.
But then i start reading up on all of these rear main seals leaking....and i've never noticed a drop on my driveway & hopefully this wont happen....as I want to get 3 more years out of this ride.
But i got one thing to say. If i get a rear main seal leak before 150-175k that will be the LAST dollar i ever give nissan. This kinda crap under 100k in 2006 is unacceptable and nissan needs to step to the plate! Avg milage these days is 20k or so a year in alot of places. Was looking to get a minivan next year as we got kid on the way.
Look man its 2006, cars are 30 grand and up. I want more than 5 or 6 or 100k reliable years out of them and i drive LOW easy miles/year or maybe i just need to stick with the toyo 4's...
Man seriously...if they're going to blow rear seals at 100k or under hell might as well save the bucks, buy american + extended warrenty and dump em at 100k...I'm begining to wonder if japanese quality is hitting the $hitter
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#48339 - 13/11/06 09:33 PM
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#48340 - 13/11/06 09:44 PM
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#48341 - 13/11/06 10:03 PM
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ok so maybe that was harsh its a utility vehical right, 1st gen stuff....and my main seal is apparently hopefully not leaking. And hey i know V6 not going to have the lifespan of reliable 4's made for longevity.
Not distubed about the manifold..
But reading up on these main seals is a little distubing as the first things i read when i did a search on the net after the manifold leak developed was three problems on these have developed (ac - check had that, manifold - check now have that, rear main seal???.....ummm hope not)
My point is sure the back inside gets beat from tanks, wetsuits, gear, but for the most part my X has had it easy. Maybe i'll get 50k more out of it with no main seal problems. And hey i've done my share of rebuilds and tranny drops in my day and it happens.
All i'm saying is if i do at 100k ...did i buy a POS blazer or a nissan. Thats all.
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#48342 - 13/11/06 10:43 PM
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opps and mines an xe not se
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#48343 - 13/11/06 11:25 PM
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I would be less concerned with the reliability of your Nissan and more concerned with your command of the english language.
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#48344 - 14/11/06 06:55 AM
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Chill the fuck out. Every vehicle has issues, period, and you have the first year of production of the Xterra.
So many other things but I'm done.
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#48345 - 14/11/06 07:06 AM
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So you are complaining about a problem that hasn't happen yet? Look around this website and you will find owners with 100k-200k miles on there trucks. You have had two Japanese cars lasting over 100k and 200k and then go on to say Jap cars are going down the shitter? If you are so worried about all these problems happening to you then go too www.autotrader.com and sell your X before anything happens to it and buy whatever else you want. Sorry if you aren't getting the responses you were looking for but this board is made up of thousands of happy Nissan Xterra Owners. Oh and at 90k you might want to look into replacing your timing chain before it's too late.
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#48347 - 14/11/06 08:20 AM
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Swade, chill out, dude...
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#48348 - 14/11/06 12:27 PM
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Do a search on steering gear seal leakage, then call the local Nissan dealer to inquire about the price of a replacement steering gearbox. I guarantee you'll be selling your Xterra in no time. Just fanning the flames a little. Edited to add a couple of issues that have struck me before I switched to Nissan: Do a Google search on sun gear 4l60e Or: 3.8 head gasket Just a couple good reads that should keep one entertained for hours.
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#48349 - 14/11/06 01:31 PM
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Have seen a number of VG series engines go 300k+
Something else that's not always factored in is how well owners take care of their vehicles.
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#48350 - 14/11/06 05:03 PM
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hehe right whatever makes you guys feel good....just kidding, i can take it =)
After reading that common problems list last night I crawled under today. Yep. Rear main seal leaking....just like the photos on the web, drip. How bad does it get with milage? No telling how long its been happening. Looks small but still like i've said RATHER IRRITATING FOR A 90K mile nissan!
So lets see...common x problems from automotive.com
ac hose- check had that. No biggie manifold - check have that. Moderately irritating leaking rear main seal - OK i bought a ford bronco...i accept that now.
So what else is common to go out on this overpriced suv before I decide to either pull the tranny & manifold myself or invest 50-70% of the residual value of the vehicle paying someone besides nissan to repair it? Or will i do like most with american cars and just drive it till it croaks and hope the leak doesn't get bigger.
I didn't overpay for a japanese car to be putting in the shop every month after 75k miles so i'd like to know what other things commonly go... I'm not talking maintenance or normal wear items...i always replace those. Though I just found out it has a timing belt, which every dealer in 00 was telling me the v6's had chains which was a major selling point for me. My fault though fr not 2x checking never believe a car salesman.
head problems, rear ends, valve train, auto tranny, steering ?
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#48351 - 14/11/06 08:05 PM
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The manifold is like $70 and you can change it in an afternoon to the new style that is much stouter and should never crack again.
Rear main? Ever think that maybe the fact that the truck sits so much generates problems? Vehicles are meant to be driven. The ones that sit around generally develop issues sooner. I am expecting all sorts of issues with mine because I drive it 5k or less per year.
The steering gear thing sucks, glad I got a good used one to swap out. No rebuild kits out there, yet.
Oh and it's not economical for a company that makes money selling cars to make them last forever. No one would ever want a new one. It's called "design life". Sucks, yes, but what the heck are we to do? Build our own?
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#48352 - 14/11/06 08:29 PM
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Originally posted by Desert_Rat: Have seen a number of VG series engines go 300k+
Something else that's not always factored in is how well owners take care of their vehicles. I take real good care of my stuff. Head was machined wrong from the factory causing the head gasket to fail. Can't complain too much, was fixed under warranty. Point is, stuff happens. To any brand......
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#48353 - 14/11/06 08:59 PM
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why does any one expect a gasket to last "x" amount of miles, rubber and silicone only last a finite amount of "time" no matter how well you take care of a vehicle. key word here is "time", not "mileage"
my father-in-law bought an 87 regal with 27,000 miles on it. when i asked to borrow it, it had 200 miles more than that, when i got on it and the gaskets where blowing out everywhere, it wasn't a big "surprise", that muther%^^&er is old, and that type of shit happens, regardless of "miles".
point being, no matter the miles, when it comes to gaskets, time dictates everything.
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#48354 - 14/11/06 09:18 PM
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I'm gonna let the rear main slide, unless i notice it affect the dipstick not going to worry about it. gonna do the manis next week...can burn a valve with mani leaks. Hopefully the steering is not as widespread and i wont develop that..
Mines reliable, no engine problems which is the main thing....but hell it should be at this milage and the engine is close to 2 decade old design practically. Still though 3 toyo's without this rear main seal, steering box type stuff..who knows.
and now im going to get a real good laugh down from my neighbors with fords and tahoes when they find out i need, exaust manifolds, pull tranny for rear main seals, if the steering starts leaking give it up...i'll surrender.
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#48355 - 14/11/06 09:29 PM
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Originally posted by swade: and now im going to get a real good laugh down from my neighbors with fords and tahoes when they find out i need, exaust manifolds, pull tranny for rear main seals, if the steering starts leaking give it up...i'll surrender. Dude, why do you care what your small-penised neighbors who bought cars that have fewer American made parts than your Nissan does (did you know it was assembled here in the United States?). Their chosen brands have issues too, what's Ford stand for? Fix Or Repair Daily, yeah that nickname was derived from super reliability. What would you like to bet that your neighbors have had similar issues from their vehicles that they've had serviced @ the dealership because they can't tell the difference between a wrench and a wratchet? But whatever, you're bitching about a 7 year old vehicle needing maintenance. 7 YEARS, jesus get over yourself.
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#48356 - 14/11/06 09:37 PM
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So wheres a good place to get new manifolds online? Any difference in quality? i only want to do this once =)
My rear main is not from sitting, gets driven highway regullarly. Theres no shortage of people reporting that at 30,40,50k, multiple years, seems nissan should have beefed up that oem seal some time ago. Maybe V6's just are more apt to do this due to vehicle weight, load on the shaft, towing,etc..i dont know.
Hopefully the auto trannys are bulletproof.
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#48357 - 14/11/06 10:02 PM
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keep your eyes out on ebay and on all the xterra boards. you want the ones made for after 2002, thats when they finally beefed them up, i believe. i picked up a set with the o2 sensors for $50 including ship.
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#48358 - 15/11/06 06:08 AM
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So am I looking for new or ones parted out? Parts for 2002+ be readily available right?
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#48359 - 15/11/06 07:08 AM
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Originally posted by swade: So wheres a good place to get new manifolds online? Any difference in quality? i only want to do this once =)
My rear main is not from sitting, gets driven highway regullarly. Theres no shortage of people reporting that at 30,40,50k, multiple years, seems nissan should have beefed up that oem seal some time ago. Maybe V6's just are more apt to do this due to vehicle weight, load on the shaft, towing,etc..i dont know.
Hopefully the auto trannys are bulletproof. Check out my post on exhaust manifold replacement (and the post it links to) HERE There are tons of pics as well as part numbers, prices, where I bought the stuff etc.
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#48360 - 15/11/06 01:51 PM
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Originally posted by swade: So am I looking for new or ones parted out?
thanks either/or
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#48361 - 15/11/06 04:31 PM
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Originally posted by South Side Ninja: keep your eyes out on ebay and on all the xterra boards. you want the ones made for after 2002, thats when they finally beefed them up, i believe. i picked up a set with the o2 sensors for $50 including ship. '03 and '04 are the ones that you need. I have an '02 (granted mine is a very early '02) and mine was cracked.
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#48362 - 15/11/06 05:07 PM
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Originally posted by AHTOXA: Originally posted by South Side Ninja: [b]keep your eyes out on ebay and on all the xterra boards. you want the ones made for AFTER 2002, thats when they finally beefed them up, i believe. i picked up a set with the o2 sensors for $50 including ship. '03 and '04 are the ones that you need. I have an '02 (granted mine is a very early '02) and mine was cracked.[/b]you want the ones made for AFTER 2002 please, reread my previous post.
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#48363 - 15/11/06 05:14 PM
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ok sorry i'm confused..
kiaser ordered 00 manifolds looking at his list, you guys say to look for 03,04 manifold. So you cannot order 03-04 manifolds then correct? To get 03-04 i would have to search ebay for new or used as nissanparts,etc doesn't carry 03-04?
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#48364 - 15/11/06 05:18 PM
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slow down, slow down.
if you were to get used ones try to get them off a 2003 or 2004. thats when the oem production was fixed supposedly.
if you are going to buy them new i would probably still buy the ones for 2003 or 2004 as well.
maybe kaiser didn't know that the issue was fixed in 03-04. Maybe Nissan has made the replacements for 2000 - 2002 better, but i doubt it.
sorry for the confusion.
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#48365 - 15/11/06 05:23 PM
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The manifolds might be different between the '01's and '03's for example: On one, the cats are part of the manifold, on the other, they are a separate piece... so you can get the manifold onto the engine....but you'd need to rube goldberg the rest of the exhaust to match up.
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#48366 - 15/11/06 05:29 PM
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Originally posted by TJ:
1#The manifolds might be different between the '01's and '03's for example:
2#....but you'd need to rube goldberg the rest of the exhaust to match up.
1# MIGHT or ARE? 2# what exactly does this mean
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#48367 - 15/11/06 06:57 PM
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Originally posted by South Side Ninja: Originally posted by TJ: [b] 1#The manifolds might be different between the '01's and '03's for example: 2#....but you'd need to rube goldberg the rest of the exhaust to match up. 1# MIGHT or ARE?
2# what exactly does this mean[/b]Dont they teach these things in school anymore? Rube goldberg machine... Ever watch Pee wee back in the day? Alarm goes off turning a peice of twine thats connected to a bowling ball ramp, which rolls the ball into something else and so on and so forth until the end result is breakfast is ready? Pretty much its a series of events strung together that have a domino effect to achieve an end result, normally they are quite complex and some are down right genius. We used to build them in grade school.
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#48368 - 15/11/06 07:07 PM
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Nissan does not sell the "old" style anymore. If you pull up the P/N for the manifolds the newer superceding part carries the old P/N. I know because that's how I ordered mine. I looked it up in FAST for my model year and got the newer style casting when I ordered it. Unless you run across a dealer with old stock (very doubtful seeing all the ones that have been replaced) you will get the new casting. The only ones that don't have the cats done the same way are the early federals with only 2 cats. The manifolds are the same for those I believe, will need to go back and check. I ordered mine from www.nissanparts.cc for less than $70 last year. I haven't checked prices on it again for obvious reasons.
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#48369 - 15/11/06 10:52 PM
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I am only saying about the manifolds because my '01's were cracked a bit...and I just swapped in an engine from an '03 X where the '01 X's engine used to be... And - the cats were part of the manifold on one, and not on the other. An '03 Engine An '01 Engine And Rube Goldberg is the one who made up all of those whacky things as described...the Board Game, Mousetrap, was based upon it, etc.
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#48370 - 16/11/06 12:35 AM
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quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by swade:
and now im going to get a real good laugh down from my neighbors with fords and tahoes when they find out i need, exaust manifolds, pull tranny for rear main seals, if the steering starts leaking give it up...i'll surrender. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Look, I just bought my X 3 days ago. Granted it's used, but never the less, it's an X. I've wanted one since the day they came. My previous vehicle, a ford explorer had 172K miles on it and didn't burn a lick of oil. Only thing I ever replaced was the clutch. Then I was in an accident and explorer got totaled.
I expect to get 200k miles if not more out of my X. Here's my point. We all buy certain vehicles for our own reasons. Parts are going break, it's bound to happen. But if you truely love your vehicle, you will do whatever it takes to keep them on the road.
I'm new to this forum (1st post), but it seems like every X owner in here, has nothing but love for their X and no matter what breaks or the cost of the replacement part, they make the repair and keep on truckin! Who cares what other people think, drive, or what your vehicle looks like, as long as you love your ride, that's what matters.
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#48371 - 16/11/06 06:05 AM
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Originally posted by AndrewH: Originally posted by South Side Ninja: [b] Originally posted by TJ: [b] 1#The manifolds might be different between the '01's and '03's for example: 2#....but you'd need to rube goldberg the rest of the exhaust to match up. 1# MIGHT or ARE? 2# what exactly does this mean[/b] Dont they teach these things in school anymore? Rube goldberg machine... Ever watch Pee wee back in the day? Alarm goes off turning a peice of twine thats connected to a bowling ball ramp, which rolls the ball into something else and so on and so forth until the end result is breakfast is ready? Pretty much its a series of events strung together that have a domino effect to achieve an end result, normally they are quite complex and some are down right genius. We used to build them in grade school.[/b]Like in the GOONIES, when he puuls the string and all that stuff happpens, and the gate opens....
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#48372 - 16/11/06 08:09 AM
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Originally posted by chumpmann: Originally posted by AndrewH: [b] Originally posted by South Side Ninja: [b] quote: Originally posted by TJ:
1#The manifolds might be different between the '01's and '03's for example:
2#....but you'd need to rube goldberg the rest of the exhaust to match up.
1# MIGHT or ARE? 2# what exactly does this mean[/b] Dont they teach these things in school anymore? Rube goldberg machine... Ever watch Pee wee back in the day? Alarm goes off turning a peice of twine thats connected to a bowling ball ramp, which rolls the ball into something else and so on and so forth until the end result is breakfast is ready? Pretty much its a series of events strung together that have a domino effect to achieve an end result, normally they are quite complex and some are down right genius. We used to build them in grade school.[/b]Like in the GOONIES, when he puuls the string and all that stuff happpens, and the gate opens.... you people are all way too old for me. pee wee herman,pffft. i was too busy playing out on the playground when i was a kid to be watching tv, either that or i was way too young when that show was on the air.
old people...think they know everthing. :rolleyes:
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#48373 - 16/11/06 08:22 AM
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#48374 - 16/11/06 09:02 AM
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Funny.. I alllllmost posted that earlier - but didn't 'cause I figured everyone has seen it already.
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#48375 - 16/11/06 10:19 AM
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Originally posted by South Side Ninja: Originally posted by chumpmann: [b] Originally posted by AndrewH: [b] quote: Originally posted by South Side Ninja: quote: Originally posted by TJ:
1#The manifolds might be different between the '01's and '03's for example:
2#....but you'd need to rube goldberg the rest of the exhaust to match up.
1# MIGHT or ARE? 2# what exactly does this mean[/b] Dont they teach these things in school anymore? Rube goldberg machine... Ever watch Pee wee back in the day? Alarm goes off turning a peice of twine thats connected to a bowling ball ramp, which rolls the ball into something else and so on and so forth until the end result is breakfast is ready? Pretty much its a series of events strung together that have a domino effect to achieve an end result, normally they are quite complex and some are down right genius. We used to build them in grade school.[/b]Like in the GOONIES, when he puuls the string and all that stuff happpens, and the gate opens.... you people are all way too old for me. pee wee herman,pffft. i was too busy playing out on the playground when i was a kid to be watching tv, either that or i was way too young when that show was on the air.
old people...think they know everthing. :rolleyes:
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#48376 - 16/11/06 03:54 PM
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COol. I'll order that one as soon as I check both of em. Good photo write up. Thanks for all the help. Sorry for goin off =) hahaha
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#48377 - 18/11/06 06:41 PM
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Hey Swade, If It makes you feel any better I bought my 2000 X last years and about 65,000 miles I had to replace the manifold in it. I've had to replace the headlights several times, the ABS light is always on, it has new breaks. Not to mention its been hit on each side, the hood was damaged by some fat cat, and the rear has been hit. All drivers left without leaving their insurance. Aside from it being a bit costly on maintenance and looking like trailer trash, I love it none the less
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#48378 - 22/11/06 07:53 PM
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1988 Jeep Cherokee 238,473 miles on it replaced the rear main seal at 227k last year.
cost me 14.00 and an afternoon in the garage.
gotta luv it!
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