So if they included them, they would offer them for free ? I don't see your logic. Were your driveshafts free ?

geez people, I'm actually w/ Ian on this one. I mean, hell, driveshafts aren't all that expensive. You could even go cheap, if you wanted to, and put a box shaft up front (not that I'd want to do it, if it'd still see pavement in 4x4).

If having to get a driveshaft made up is the limiting factor in getting a SAS, maybe you shouldn't do an SAS...

I mean, we're only talking $200 to $300 for a driveshaft. In the grand scheme of things, that's not a huge number.

Yeah, I was confused to. Then I figured it was a typo & he must've meant: "...that WOULD hike the price..."
Otherwise the logic would be a little... , , and maybe even .

EDIT: my impression was also that the D-shaft cost is < 5-10% of the hole deal; so the logic is still a little...at least... :rolleyes:

Gee man, why you gotta see things crooked all the time! How much is the kit, $5K? $10K? If either number is true, then yes, I think they should include them. But then who cares about what I think! Mine weren't free. My rear costed me about $400.00 including shipping, and front is about $350.00. That's what I meant by hiking the price.

Was it Tom Woods or High-Angle that made yours Riad? The front was a double-cardan for sure. Don't recall how the rear was set up, longer and/or double-cardan too?

People need to stop mentioning $5k and $10K for the price of this kit, it's not even close.

I had 2 new driveshafts made for my truck for a little over $400. That's not that bad. Wheeling is a pay to play sport.

Front was High Angle and the rear was Tom Wood. They are both double-cardans. However, I think the front has stronger U joints, I think Jesse at High Angle set it up to be 1350, I think rear is 1310 or some thing else. Eitherway, both are prety beefy.

So Ian, I presume you know the price? What is it?

If you read the entire thread, then you'd know that he, and others, aren't saying out of respect for Steve and Calmini. They'll release the price when they are firm on it.

I've had several driveshafts made myself. I use original Toyota double cardans, as they actually have a higher angle handling ability than the aftermarkets. If you're paying for Tom Woods, then you're paying for a name as well. I like his stuff, but I continue to go local for my shafts. I need to get a double for the rear of my Yota as well. Vibration is starting to take its toll on the rear yoke.

Getting a drive shaft made for anything isn't rocket science. Hell, get a double for both front and rear of the X, and you won't have to worry about it when you decide to go big with the lift and the articulation in the rear either.

But I will have a spare square tube front shaft, as well as a spare line for the rear. Paying for fun is .......well........the cost of fun!

Factory driveshafts have 1310 u-joints, I'd hope you at least upgraded in the process when you had the rear built.

This may be a little early, but how drivable will this system be on a daily basis? I drive about 25k a year. I will be doing a lift once the truck is paid for (two years). However it will still be my daily driver. I'm looking to do the sas and run two different sets of tires. one set for trails the other for daily use.

Found this on pirate 4x4. It's a complete waggy but could be parted out and sold, minus the D44 front of course. I think he is located in Colorado somewhere.

He is down to $1500.

pirate 4x4 classified

Looks like it's in pretty good shape. If i had the money to do an SAS i might think about it, but practicality must take priority!!!

Tim

Whats the ETA on the release?

no official release date but rumors say around the begining of the year/Xmas for whatever it's worth.

Hope we only have a few more months to wait. I believe "Options" would be the key to this conversion kit.

Well after seeing it in action I'm really looking forward to the production kit for my newly acquired black hawk 2K X. Some of my pixs can be viewed at:
http://www.xterraownersclub.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=36;t=001710

Since costs seem to be a hot topic, for my stock X I'm planning on running lockers on both axles, 5.14 gears, 35" tires and my ballpark budgeting so far:

Core Parts:
$2.5K for the kit (~ about the same as a Jeep TJ long arm kit's)
$650 for a used D44 front 80's waggy axle ($325) refurbished with some new brakes parts ($125), lines ($50), ball joints ($50), wheel bearings ($50),misc ($50).
$250 front R&P gears, new carrier, master install kit.
$350 used rear 5.14 gears/3rd member (possible to avoid this w/ stock rear 4.9's)
$400 front CV drive shaft

Core Labor:
$350 Rear lockers and R&P install/setup. The no slip is a lunch box so I can install that myself.

$4500 swap subtotal including the kit, axle, gears, misc

Options:
$150 HD front U-joints
$225 Used D44 power trax no slip locker
$700 Rear ARB locker
$300 Skid plates
$850 35" tires and new rims

$6725 with lockers, skids, new tires, misc

Options I'm likely to take in the future:
$250 Rear Slip Yoke eliminator
$300 Rear drive shaft
$1250 3.9 crawler gears

$8525 eventual grand total

I'm planning on doing most of the work myself expect the gears/lockers with the help from friends when it comes to welding of the front arms and grinding that's needed. I confident that the whole swap can be done over a weekend

The thing about a SAS is one thing leads to another for me at least and I'm sure I will most likely end up doing more than I planned like a cage or something. Sure you can do the basic swap for less then my est. budget but for me I don't see the point of a SAS without lockers or some of the other goodies/options. Hope my estimate is high but I'm realistic and been through a SAS once already.

BTW my 2k Black hawk X is going to be my 2nd Nissan SAS , my 90 Pathy was my first and it wheels great but not really suitable as a DD but was lot less expensive (including the truck and all the mods < 5k) for a leaf sprung setup. I saved some by buying used, bartering, on closeouts, etc. and plan on doing that this time as well

Brian

around 3k, sign me up steve

just found the 44 i'm gonna use
can't wait

if you guys need axle let me know i can get you guys some prices at the yard my friend works at

$1800.00 ?!?!?!?!

Minus the axle and associated work.

http://www.purenissan.com/NP12700.jpg

Not including options:
Front Coil-Over Shocks
Optional Front Sway Bar
Rear Leaf Springs
Front CV Driveline.

Anyone heard of a final release date as this thread hasn't been posted since early Nov.

http://www.xterraownersclub.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=60;t=000216