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#498942 - 01/04/06 08:03 PM Hmmm SAS
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Well in honor of my 3000th post (post whore) here it is.

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#498943 - 01/04/06 08:07 PM Re: Hmmm SAS
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Few others










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#498944 - 01/04/06 08:07 PM Re: Hmmm SAS
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Chop chop chop, that garage looks familar laugh

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#498945 - 01/04/06 08:12 PM Re: Hmmm SAS
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very nice, you have a pm (on nor)

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#498946 - 01/04/06 08:49 PM Re: Hmmm SAS
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I like the plasma pictures smile
But, all these SAS projects could very well shorten my 1 year out plans for the SAS...specially if I can find an axel

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#498947 - 02/04/06 12:19 AM Re: Hmmm SAS
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Last time I worked on my X I had a bunch of parts leftover too! Still runs though?? laugh

Edit :4/6/06 :
PS..Looks GREAT BTW

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#498948 - 02/04/06 07:12 AM Re: Hmmm SAS
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Looks great.

Moab is going to be a whole lot more interesting this year. Last year we had 3 SAS Xterras and one SAS Pathfinder. This year we are going to have a bunch of SAS trucks as well as a number of other creative mods.

Is your tie rod setup custom?

Take Care,

-Doug

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#498949 - 02/04/06 07:51 AM Re: Hmmm SAS
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Originally posted by DesertHB:
Looks great.

Moab is going to be a whole lot more interesting this year. Last year we had 3 SAS Xterras and one SAS Pathfinder. This year we are going to have a bunch of SAS trucks as well as a number of other creative mods.

Is your tie rod setup custom?

Take Care,

-Doug
Yeah the tie rod setup is a HD custom put together at the shop.

Since it sits out there I wanted something a little beefier.


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#498950 - 02/04/06 08:44 AM Re: Hmmm SAS
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Quote:
Originally posted by Alpine Spirit:
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Originally posted by DesertHB:
[b]Looks great.

Moab is going to be a whole lot more interesting this year. Last year we had 3 SAS Xterras and one SAS Pathfinder. This year we are going to have a bunch of SAS trucks as well as a number of other creative mods.

Is your tie rod setup custom?

Take Care,

-Doug
Yeah the tie rod setup is a HD custom put together at the shop.

Since it sits out there I wanted something a little beefier.


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Looking good.
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#498951 - 02/04/06 09:48 AM Re: Hmmm SAS
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Kev, does All Phase sell that steering as a kit? I need to do something for my axle as well.

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#498952 - 02/04/06 10:31 AM Re: Hmmm SAS
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Quote:
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Kev, does All Phase sell that steering as a kit? I need to do something for my axle as well.
We can make that system for your rig at a fairly economical price. There are two ways to go about it. One is to use the bigger thinner wall tubing, like on the pic, and weld the ends on. The other is to get tubing with the correct inner diameter to thread directly in the tubing for heim joint. This tubing tends have a smaller diameter and thicker walls. Either way works awesome.

We can get the tubing at the local metal supply at about 60% the cost of the 4wd shops and the correct taps(left and right thread)just happen to be in my tool box. Poison spyder sells the threaded ends for $12 each and heims run about $30.

Kev, Being you truck is a DD, you may think about installing some of THESE , they will protect the heims from the daily grime you get out in the mountains.

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#498953 - 02/04/06 11:57 AM Re: Hmmm SAS
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Cool... Thanks Ryan they will be ordered up ASAP.

Allen... All Phase says they make em all the time.

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#498954 - 02/04/06 12:52 PM Re: Hmmm SAS
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The place that sells those washers is in Longmont..

Spidertrax Inc.
7510 Hygiene Road
Longmont, CO 80503

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#498955 - 02/04/06 01:44 PM Re: Hmmm SAS
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Damn, I guess I need to move up to Colorado. All you fellas up there seem to have a ton of cash to sink into your rigs. AND the time off work to go enjoy them. I can't seem to compute that. confused I hate you guys! [Finger]

Looks good!

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#498956 - 02/04/06 06:24 PM Re: Hmmm SAS
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Looks good. Nice shop.

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#498957 - 03/04/06 06:58 AM Re: Hmmm SAS
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i just dropped my truck off for the SAS too. i like the tie rod set up but where is your draglink going to mount. are you fabbing up the inverted T hook up to it?

what size tires are you going to go with?

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#498958 - 03/04/06 10:32 AM Re: Hmmm SAS
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Drag link we will sand off a spot and weld something on... may go custom all the way to the pitman arm. May use the Calmini also should have it al figured out tommorrow.

Tire size not tottally sure yet see how it sits when it is all done, check the clearances while turned. I also have to keep in mind the offset wheels.

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#498959 - 03/04/06 10:38 AM Re: Hmmm SAS
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Here are two ways to hook it up...

Under knuckle


Over Knuckle

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#498960 - 03/04/06 11:06 AM Re: Hmmm SAS
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I would think Over Knuckle would give you a better angle not to mention more clearance if it doesn’t interfere with anything else?

Might as well go custom all the way since the CALMINI adapter and supplied Chevy Tie rod is kind of pain for alignment because of the threading. Although the stock Pitman may need to be reamed to fit the stud.

Did you leave the knuckles stock alone or ream those for the custom tie rod?

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#498961 - 03/04/06 04:56 PM Re: Hmmm SAS
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Ya, ya, ya... if you and Jordan would quit hoggin the lifts, I could get mine started. [Finger]

Troy [drink]

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#498962 - 03/04/06 04:58 PM Re: Hmmm SAS
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You missed a great dinner Friday Troy wink I don't know if you're single, but the girl on the left there, is b e a u t i f u l. I mean hot like a robot. A hot robot who likes margartitas [ThumbsUp] (they're sisters laugh ..)

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#498963 - 03/04/06 09:14 PM Re: Hmmm SAS
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I've seen enough, what's her number? [ThumbsUp] I'm back in the BC now, but I'll turn around and come back down.

Troy [drink]

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#498964 - 04/04/06 05:29 PM Re: Hmmm SAS
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90% Done....

Well basically done. Drive shaft did not make it so I will put that on Thurs or Friday after it gets here.

We went custom and over the knuckle to keep the clearance below the axle. Tie Rod is .25 inch thick metal with heims. Drag link is slightly thinner metal with heims.

Can someone take a pic of the clearance between the exhaust and skid. MAN does that look tight.

Pics coming soon.

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#498965 - 04/04/06 08:08 PM Re: Hmmm SAS
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#498966 - 04/04/06 08:09 PM Re: Hmmm SAS
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#498967 - 04/04/06 08:22 PM Re: Hmmm SAS
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Looking good

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#498968 - 04/04/06 08:53 PM Re: Hmmm SAS
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looking good you up for carnage on saturday

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#498969 - 04/04/06 09:03 PM Re: Hmmm SAS
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It really looks great Kev, [ThumbsUp] [ThumbsUp] once again. Now go with Cameron and get some pics on the rocks laugh .

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#498970 - 04/04/06 09:08 PM Re: Hmmm SAS
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Holy crap! [ThumbsUp]

You went with revolvers too? How level does it sit and with what rear springs? The Calminis? Articulation is going to be sick!

Great job; I love seeing stuff like this.

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#498971 - 05/04/06 04:34 AM Re: Hmmm SAS
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do you have a 2"BL and 33's on there?

do you think your drag link should sit on top of the pitman arm? it's not in line with your trac bar.

looks sweet.

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#498972 - 05/04/06 06:30 AM Re: Hmmm SAS
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Kev that looks awesome!!! Can't wait to be part of giving that blue some character (rock dings, scratches,etc). Hopefully this will be a good summer of wheeling! laugh

"do you think your drag link should sit on top of the pitman arm? it's not in line with your trac bar."

The fellas doing his work are fairly skookum at building these rigs. Maybe putting it on the topside of the pitman will exceed the heim's limits at full extension. However, it does make a huge difference making the trac bar and the drag link parallel. Otherwise, every time you hit a bump the steering wheel will have to be moved to keep the truck going straight (bump-steer).

examples:

Not lined up (the top two links)


Closer to lined up

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#498973 - 05/04/06 06:38 AM Re: Hmmm SAS
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Quote:
Originally posted by steinism:
do you have a 2"BL and 33's on there?

do you think your drag link should sit on top of the pitman arm? it's not in line with your trac bar.

looks sweet.
Drag link is actually under the pitman you may be looking at the pic of the knuckle setup.

Yep 33s and the 2" body lift.

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#498974 - 05/04/06 07:02 AM Re: Hmmm SAS
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Quote:
Originally posted by Alpine Spirit:
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Originally posted by steinism:
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do you think your drag link should sit on top of the pitman arm? it's not in line with your trac bar.
Drag link is actually under the pitman you may be looking at the pic of the knuckle setup.
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#498975 - 05/04/06 07:27 AM Re: Hmmm SAS
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Originally posted by AK9849CY:
"do you think your drag link should sit on top of the pitman arm? it's not in line with your trac bar."

The fellas doing his work are fairly skookum at building these rigs. Maybe putting it on the topside of the pitman will exceed the heim's limits at full extension. However, it does make a huge difference making the trac bar and the drag link parallel. Otherwise, every time you hit a bump the steering wheel will have to be moved to keep the truck going straight (bump-steer).
i'm not questioning the shops skills but as you mentioned bump steer and turning radius can be an issue if they are not parallel with one another. just an opinion. no attacking from here.

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#498976 - 05/04/06 07:52 AM Re: Hmmm SAS
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Hey Kev,

I'm new to the X. I come from a Jeep background and I am familiar with the Revolver Shackles. On a Jeep Wrangler (YJ) the hinge of the revolver shackle should point toward the axle. This goes for a front or rear application. Yours is pointing away. This may be correct for the your application but it goes against the basic design as I understand it. It's worth double checking. Here is a pic on the rear of a Wrangler.

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#498977 - 05/04/06 01:31 PM Re: Hmmm SAS
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yah i made that mistake also i put it on backwards it will work but it bounces and hites your frame might want to change it around

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#498978 - 05/04/06 05:22 PM Re: Hmmm SAS
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Quote:
Originally posted by steinism:
Quote:
Originally posted by Alpine Spirit:
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Originally posted by steinism:
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do you think your drag link should sit on top of the pitman arm? it's not in line with your trac bar.
Drag link is actually under the pitman you may be looking at the pic of the knuckle setup.
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confused [/b]
WOW!!!

Note to self: Do not answer any question that requires more effort than farting if you are tired and really need a cup of coffee.

Oh and thats the way it is suggested... plus most of what I have read says you want the drag link as close to horizontal as possible.

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#498979 - 05/04/06 05:26 PM Re: Hmmm SAS
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Originally posted by cameron_garrison:
yah i made that mistake also i put it on backwards it will work but it bounces and hites your frame might want to change it around
Yep I thought it was suspicious from the beggining with the zerk sticking out the back. Then I stopped on the way home and eyed another set and I will get em switched up.

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#498980 - 05/04/06 05:50 PM Re: Hmmm SAS
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what size tires are you planning on running imwondering if i can fit 36's with my 3"body

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#498981 - 05/04/06 06:32 PM Re: Hmmm SAS
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I upgraded the diffs to 5.13 and 5.14... so I am shootin for 35s after this set finishes out.

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#498982 - 07/04/06 10:59 PM Re: Hmmm SAS
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G0damn, Kevin...

[Finger] [Finger]

Did I mention? [Finger]

[Crybaby] [Crybaby]

How do I do mine from out of state?

[Rainbow]

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#498983 - 12/04/06 06:07 PM Re: Hmmm SAS
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So how's the SAS doing. You've had a week were's the PICS from your first offroad test? laugh

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#498984 - 12/04/06 06:51 PM Re: Hmmm SAS
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So how's the SAS doing. You've had a week were's the PICS from your first offroad test? laugh
He just got his front drive shaft on. He was running around restricted with 2wd.

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#498985 - 12/04/06 08:32 PM Re: Hmmm SAS
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We're goin out tomorrow smile

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#498986 - 12/04/06 10:05 PM Re: Hmmm SAS
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Hey dont get your panties in a ruffle we will get some pics tommorrow!!!!!!!!!
[Smoking]

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#498987 - 13/04/06 08:25 AM Re: Hmmm SAS
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Cool, Just curious thought you forgot everyone because you were to busy wheeling. Have fun out there. [Too much XOC] laugh

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#498988 - 14/04/06 01:47 PM Re: Hmmm SAS
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how's your steering, turning radius and brakes performing.

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#498989 - 14/04/06 02:19 PM Re: Hmmm SAS
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Steering is great... it is alot easier to turn the bigger tires when aired down. I do have a little bump steer, but once again I got used to it. Maybe raising the track bar a little would fix it. Or a steering stabilizer.

Turning radius is about the same I just have to turn a little faster than before.

Brakes took a bit of getting used to.. but that is the difference of 20 years of technology. They felt soft at first but after I got used to the fact that I had to depress the pedal a little further I was fine.

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#498990 - 14/04/06 02:21 PM Re: Hmmm SAS
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what ever happened with the different shocks and springs you were trying out? and was that the front and the back?

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#498991 - 14/04/06 02:47 PM Re: Hmmm SAS
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The shocks did not match but I am running the Coils from King.

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#498992 - 14/04/06 07:24 PM Re: Hmmm SAS
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Quote:
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The shocks did not match but I am running the Coils from King.
got a part #?

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#498993 - 15/04/06 08:10 AM Re: Hmmm SAS
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I will see if I can find em they were #300lb coils

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#498994 - 17/04/06 04:02 AM Re: Hmmm SAS
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Originally posted by steinism:
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Quote:
Originally posted by Alpine Spirit:
[b]
quote:
Originally posted by steinism:

do you think your drag link should sit on top of the pitman arm? it's not in line with your trac bar.
Drag link is actually under the pitman you may be looking at the pic of the knuckle setup.
[/b]
confused [/b]
Oh and thats the way it is suggested... plus most of what I have read says you want the drag link as close to horizontal as possible.
actually it is recommended that the drag link is on top of the PA. i was also going to install mine below but the taper is too small. when we called calmini about it the said that it works best on top. so now its on top. turning radius is good too.


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#498995 - 17/04/06 04:20 PM Re: Hmmm SAS
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Steiny-

What is that tube with the 90 degree bend coming out of the front diff? Is that the vent tube?

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#498996 - 17/04/06 04:45 PM Re: Hmmm SAS
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Steiny-

What is that tube with the 90 degree bend coming out of the front diff? Is that the vent tube?

Stone
thats the air line for the front locker.

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