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#499687 - 15/02/07 06:44 PM Harsh Terrain SAS build
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I saw my rig tonite and the SAS is done. It looks totally awesome. When I pick it up tomorrow, I will post some pics.

Can't wait!!

[a few hours elapse]

Voila!










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#499688 - 15/02/07 06:49 PM Re: Harsh Terrain SAS build
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Quit pimping out this project without pictures!!!! laugh

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#499689 - 15/02/07 08:30 PM Re: Harsh Terrain SAS build
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Seriously....Let's see it!!!

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#499690 - 16/02/07 05:54 AM Re: Harsh Terrain SAS build
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Quote:
Originally posted by Alpine Spirit:
Quit pimping out this project without pictures!!!! laugh
Patience, Danielsun.

I'll have 'em in a few hours.

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#499691 - 16/02/07 06:43 AM Re: Harsh Terrain SAS build
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Not a few hours, NOW! laugh

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#499692 - 16/02/07 07:37 AM Re: Harsh Terrain SAS build
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Okay. It's been a few hours.

Why are we waiting? Why are we waiting? We could be masturbating...

(old rugby song just popped in to my noggin)

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#499693 - 16/02/07 01:39 PM Re: Harsh Terrain SAS build
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7 1/2 hrs...c'mon Jeff, quit holding out!

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#499694 - 16/02/07 03:32 PM Re: Harsh Terrain SAS build
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:rolleyes: Look up! :rolleyes:

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#499695 - 16/02/07 03:45 PM Re: Harsh Terrain SAS build
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So whats the story, how is it different/same as the other SAS kit, cost or is it a one off? More questions to follow. smile

Looks DAMN good bye the way [ThumbsUp]

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#499696 - 16/02/07 06:05 PM Re: Harsh Terrain SAS build
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Congrats Jeff, looks great! Keep the rubber side down (mostly wink ).

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#499697 - 16/02/07 06:23 PM Re: Harsh Terrain SAS build
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Jeff - Looks Sweet!

laugh

What are the improvements over the Calmini kit?

Do tell!

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#499698 - 16/02/07 07:15 PM Re: Harsh Terrain SAS build
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Quote:
Originally posted by DBAX:
Congrats Jeff, looks great! Keep the rubber side down (mostly wink ).
Says the Wheely King himself laugh

Seriously, though, it looks beefy Jeff [ThumbsUp]

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#499699 - 16/02/07 07:32 PM Re: Harsh Terrain SAS build
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Quote:
Originally posted by TJ:
What are the improvements over the Calmini kit?
Black powdercoat instead of blue?

laugh
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#499700 - 16/02/07 09:12 PM Re: Harsh Terrain SAS build
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Looks like rattle can to me laugh

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#499701 - 16/02/07 10:44 PM Re: Harsh Terrain SAS build
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Hello, Looks great and done right too!

On most off-roading, straight front axles works really great. My dodge ram 86' straight front...I have no problems going off roading.

The nice thing...is you know it can handle better than the stock style. Wanna trade?

Ok please lets know how you feel after a couple of trips??.........Aloha

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#499702 - 16/02/07 11:02 PM Re: Harsh Terrain SAS build
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Quote:
Originally posted by Kona Hawaii:


On most off-roading, straight front axles works really great...

...The nice thing...is you know it can handle better than the stock style...
wow really!!!fuckin genius, who woulda ever thunk it?

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#499703 - 17/02/07 06:55 AM Re: Harsh Terrain SAS build
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Quote:
Originally posted by Xorand:
Quote:
Originally posted by TJ:
[b]What are the improvements over the Calmini kit?
Black powdercoat instead of blue?

laugh [/b]
There are definitely differences from the Calmini kit.

For one, this configuration is designed for Hi-Steer. I believe it also gives additional lift (about 6") which is essential for those people who want to clear 35's without a BL. I still have a few places to trim because there is rubbing at full flex in places.

As for a kit, that's up to the guys at Harsh Terrain. I know they have the capability, but I won't speak on their behalf.

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#499704 - 17/02/07 10:35 AM Re: Harsh Terrain SAS build
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Just pullin' yer leg, Jeff. Looks awesome. [ThumbsUp]

Anxious to see some wheelin' pics with it.
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#499705 - 17/02/07 10:39 AM Re: Harsh Terrain SAS build
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Looks really cool man. [ThumbsUp]

Came out really clean. Congrats!

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#499706 - 17/02/07 01:16 PM Re: Harsh Terrain SAS build
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The hi-steer thing is a great idea...and the extra height is gravy.

If they go for a kit, tell them there would be tremendous interest.

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#499707 - 18/02/07 07:27 AM Re: Harsh Terrain SAS build
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Nice Jeff! How much was the setup? Also, would that shop be willing to do another?
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#499708 - 18/02/07 08:55 AM Re: Harsh Terrain SAS build
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Sweet, glad you finally GOT-R-DONE. Time will tell how it works out.

How do you adjust camber on those arms?

Doesn’t look like you keep those factory front spring hangers after all wink

You don’t need 6” of lift to run 35’s /wo a BO…with the right BS they fit fine with some sheet metal trimming. I’m running them, with ~4.75 lift up front, 15x8 w/3.75BS wheels and they don’t rub.

Looks like partial high steer…x-over on the draglink… that was my pathy and worked well… I really don’t notice any difference compared to the regular Low-Steer on the X because it works equally as well with the same size tires. On the pathy and other leaf setup you need the clearance so X over or full high steer makes more sense. Pro/cons of each but low-steer spreads the loads between ball joints better so some say its tougher.
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#499709 - 18/02/07 09:42 AM Re: Harsh Terrain SAS build
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Quote:
Originally posted by Xtoolbox:
.....How do you adjust camber on those arms?

Doesn’t look like you keep those factory front spring hangers after all wink .....
The arms don't adjust camber, but there is a caster adjustment.

The rear spring hangers are intact.

The Hi-Steer system is full Hi-steer. The tie rod is fastened underneath the Hi-steer arms, which is not uncommon.

I definitely am presenting all of the differences between Calmini and this config as "differences". The observer can come to their own conclusion.

I'll let you know how it works out once I get her offroad. I think it'll be great!

EDIT:

Although my rig is "getting there" it still has a long way to go before it will be built like some of you guys. I definitely need a rear locker and T-case gears and need some more skids underneath. I also need to replace my crushed gas tank as well. This SAS is a huge step in the right direction.

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#499710 - 18/02/07 01:16 PM Re: Harsh Terrain SAS build
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[ThumbsUp]

Looks great, how much will you have in it when its all said and done?

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#499711 - 20/02/07 05:23 AM Re: Harsh Terrain SAS build
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Quote:
Originally posted by DBAX:
Congrats Jeff, looks great! Keep the rubber side down (mostly wink ).
Hey dude, whats your rig situation these days? You gettin' one in time for GONE? (for all I know you already have one)

EDIT:

I'm a bright one. [Freak] I just read that you have a 2007 OR. Congrats!

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#499712 - 20/02/07 04:43 PM Re: Harsh Terrain SAS build
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Thanks Jeff. Yup, scooted right into the '07, but with our baby due mid May, Moab this year is a foregone conclusion. I tried to convince her to drive up Lions Back w/ me to induce labor, but she wouldn't go for it [Laughing] .. I'll see you in CO come August, or definitely at GONE7.
[Wave]

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#499713 - 20/02/07 05:28 PM Re: Harsh Terrain SAS build
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Quote:
Originally posted by DBAX:
Thanks Jeff. Yup, scooted right into the '07, but with our baby due mid May, Moab this year is a foregone conclusion. I tried to convince her to drive up Lions Back w/ me to induce labor, but she wouldn't go for it [Laughing] .. I'll see you in CO come August, or definitely at GONE7.
[Wave]
LOL, up Lion's Back? Don't you hate heights? Trying to induce your labor? laugh j/k

Any chance the three of you will make it to RONIN Colorado/Colorado ROX?

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#499714 - 20/02/07 05:43 PM Re: Harsh Terrain SAS build
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Great job! [ThumbsUp]

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#499715 - 21/02/07 07:24 AM Re: Harsh Terrain SAS build
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Lions back is closed.

But the truck looks great, Jeff. Very clean SAS. Now get a gas tank skid on that thing before you end up turning a 19 gallon tank into a 14 gallon one.

...and I have to give you shit about the bling chrome diff cover.

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#499716 - 21/02/07 07:36 AM Re: Harsh Terrain SAS build
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Quote:
Originally posted by Desert_Rat:
...Now get a gas tank skid on that thing before you end up turning a 19 gallon tank into a 14 gallon one...

You mean, again, right laugh

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#499717 - 21/02/07 08:01 AM Re: Harsh Terrain SAS build
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Quote:
Originally posted by Desert_Rat:
Now get a gas tank skid on that thing before you end up turning a 19 gallon tank into a 14 gallon one.
Wait...so the stock X tank is 19 gallons? Maybe that explains why I can only go 200 miles to the tank (since it only holds 16 gallons)

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#499718 - 21/02/07 07:17 PM Re: Harsh Terrain SAS build
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Quote:
Originally posted by Desert_Rat:
....and I have to give you shit about the bling chrome diff cover.
I was waitin' for that.

The diff cover that came with the Axle looked like sh1t and that was the only kind predator had in stock!

At first I didn't like it, but now I think it enhances the vehicle's "redneck appeal".

See you on the trails, man....

....

Thanks everybody for all the compliments and kind words. I'll post some more pics once I get her out on the trails.

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#499719 - 27/02/07 06:18 AM Re: Harsh Terrain SAS build
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Curious...what was the ballprak cost for you SAS all said and done? Looks like the shop does good work.

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#499720 - 27/02/07 06:57 AM Re: Harsh Terrain SAS build
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Yeah now we just need to throw some ICE in YO grill man!! laugh laugh

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#499721 - 27/02/07 04:47 PM Re: Harsh Terrain SAS build
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Quote:
Originally posted by T-Ray:
Curious...what was the ballprak cost for you SAS all said and done? Looks like the shop does good work.
Since Harsh Terrain is a manufacturing company (not just a shop), I can't really speak on their behalf for prices. I am very impressed at the quality and believe strongly that it must be seen in person to be appreciated. It is the stoutest 3-link I have ever seen on any Dana 44 front end.

I can't wait to get it offroad so that I can post more information about the functionality of the system.

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#499722 - 13/03/07 05:37 AM Re: Harsh Terrain SAS build
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I thought Jed was going to do that for you? Looks really good!
Shawn

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#499723 - 13/03/07 06:49 PM Re: Harsh Terrain SAS build
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Quote:
Originally posted by flash_gordon:
I thought Jed was going to do that for you? Looks really good!
Shawn
You know Jed?

for you. He's a cool dude.

I was gonna go through Jed, but he was busy and Harsh Terrain had a good offer and some design ideas I really liked.

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#499724 - 13/03/07 09:43 PM Re: Harsh Terrain SAS build
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Quote:
Originally posted by JeffW:
Quote:
Originally posted by T-Ray:
[b]Curious...what was the ballprak cost for you SAS all said and done? Looks like the shop does good work.
Since Harsh Terrain is a manufacturing company (not just a shop), I can't really speak on their behalf for prices. .[/b]
Jeff - I thinks he's just asking what it cost YOU (Ball Park) to do it....not what their prices are.

Obviously, you were a one off...and others would most likely benefit from what they learned doing yours, etc...so you could certainly caveat that you are not their spokesperson, and the price you paid is the price YOU paid...with NO implications as to what anyone else paid, would pay....etc.

Or just say you spent so much that you're kind of sheepish now, or whatever.

wink
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#499725 - 14/03/07 09:35 PM Re: Harsh Terrain SAS build
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Ya, Jed is cool. He's a good friend of mine. He did all the stuff on my Jeep Cherokee. We talked over rear bumper tire carrier and sliders today for the new X.

Just a few of the old stuff he did..



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#499726 - 14/03/07 10:56 PM Re: Harsh Terrain SAS build
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That's an awesome XJ. Do you still have it? time to get werkin' on that X!!!

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#499727 - 15/03/07 04:55 PM Re: Harsh Terrain SAS build
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Sold the XJ to buy/build an X! Just did a PML, and the rest of the stuff is slowly trickling in.
Looking to do a SAS next winter. I should have everything gathered up by the end of summer.

Shawn

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#499728 - 05/04/07 08:17 PM Re: Harsh Terrain SAS build
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Hey slackass, I mean Jeff, where are the flex pics? and if you tell me you haven't driven the 500 mile break-in I'm going to drive down to the springs and steal your X and do it for you laugh

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#499729 - 06/04/07 06:59 AM Re: Harsh Terrain SAS build
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Quote:
Originally posted by ChefTyler:
Hey slackass, I mean Jeff, where are the flex pics? and if you tell me you haven't driven the 500 mile break-in I'm going to drive down to the springs and steal your X and do it for you laugh
x2 only I would be driving UP to the Springs from AZ.

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#499730 - 08/04/07 08:25 AM Re: Harsh Terrain SAS build
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Quote:
Originally posted by ChefTyler:
Hey slackass, I mean Jeff,.....
I totally deserve it! The pics are on somebody else's camera and I don't have 'em yet!!!

I'm almost tempted to go put my tire on a boulder in the paking lot just to post something.

I will post as soon as I have something. Until then, I'm.....



[Too much XOC] [Too much XOC] [Too much XOC] [Too much XOC]

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#499731 - 14/04/07 12:26 PM Re: Harsh Terrain SAS build
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Bump, Jeff.

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#499732 - 04/05/07 03:42 PM Re: Harsh Terrain SAS build
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Quote:
Originally posted by ChefTyler:
Hey slackass, I mean Jeff, where are the flex pics? and if you tell me you haven't driven the 500 mile break-in I'm going to drive down to the springs and steal your X and do it for you laugh



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#499733 - 04/05/07 04:07 PM Re: Harsh Terrain SAS build
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God Jeff... Bout time. laugh

[ThumbsUp] Looks good.

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#499734 - 05/05/07 07:05 AM Re: Harsh Terrain SAS build
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
What he said laugh

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#499735 - 05/05/07 09:47 AM Re: Harsh Terrain SAS build
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Oh yeah!

[ThumbsUp] [ThumbsUp] [ThumbsUp]

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#499736 - 07/05/07 04:35 AM Re: Harsh Terrain SAS build
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Nice.

laugh

So - when you gonna take it OFF Road?

laugh
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Friends don't let friends drive stock.

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#499737 - 07/05/07 04:18 PM Re: Harsh Terrain SAS build
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Quote:
Originally posted by TJ:
Nice.

laugh

So - when you gonna take it OFF Road?

laugh
When we stop getting 12" a week of snow on the trails. I've tried to get out a few times but need to test it thoroughly on dry trails prior to snow. I also need some spare axle shafts.

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#499738 - 07/05/07 04:34 PM Re: Harsh Terrain SAS build
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Aw come on Jeff, snow is FUN:





And we don't have that much now.
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#499739 - 08/05/07 05:43 AM Re: Harsh Terrain SAS build
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Quote:
Originally posted by oleblue:
Aw come on Jeff, snow is FUN:



And we don't have that much now.
You know I love the snow. My rig just ain't built for it with 35s and stock D44 shafts. The grip-slip-grip will pop em in a heartbeat.

It snowed 18" here (above 8k ft) on Monday. I'm not going out just to screw up my junk before Moab.

Hopefully it will dry up enough for a test run soon.

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#499740 - 08/05/07 11:21 AM Re: Harsh Terrain SAS build
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Yeah - the first time out should not be under worst case conditions.

You're better off waiting for things to dry out.

I'd wait too.
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Friends don't let friends drive stock.

http://www.gifsoup.com/view/501230/tj-tackling-crawlers-ridge-o.gif

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#499741 - 08/05/07 11:23 AM Re: Harsh Terrain SAS build
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Jeff, PM sent. smile

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#499742 - 08/05/07 04:00 PM Re: Harsh Terrain SAS build
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Four wheel parts was and maybe still is running a package deal for new upgraded cro-mo axles for the D44. I think they were on special for a while.

My GF was looking into them for her truck so she could upgrade and use the stockers as spares. She checked into them and thinks they'd be a good option because, in the case of something going wrong, they'd twist at the splines rather than snap catastrophically.

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#499743 - 08/05/07 06:43 PM Re: Harsh Terrain SAS build
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TRIAL BY FIRE!!!!!!!!!!!! J/K

I cant blame you for not wanting to test it in the snow. It can be a real disaster. I blew a Premium hub and short side Ujoint yesterday recovering people from the mud and slush.

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#499744 - 08/05/07 06:44 PM Re: Harsh Terrain SAS build
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Oh and for those interested chromo shafts full set for $399:
http://completeoffroad.com/wsm/i-1192__4340_dana_44_dana_30_axles_most_applications.html

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#499745 - 08/05/07 06:44 PM Re: Harsh Terrain SAS build
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Wow Kev, you need to get a recovery vehicle sticker on you rig lol [Smoking]

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