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#52120 - 04/01/06 09:47 PM
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How can I instal a tow hook to the back of my x. Anyone done it, pics, also where to get one? Thanks
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#52121 - 05/01/06 09:34 AM
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There realy isn't a rear recovery point on the X. What most have done is to install a tow hitch and use a D-ring hitch adapter.
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#52122 - 05/01/06 09:44 AM
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I put a 10,000 lb tow hook on each side in the rear a little while ago....they are kinda useless right now as I don't have my BL put on yet, but they will be great after it goes on.....the bumper is in the way without the BL though.....there are two holes on the frames rails in the back that you can use.....I just drilled a new hole to match up with the tow hook holes.....
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#52123 - 05/01/06 09:53 AM
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The easiest way is to install a tow package with a 10,000# pigtail like me: .... Others have suggested the D-ring type, but that's not practical for me. With all the dumbasses that get stuck with road tires around here, it's just a pain to mess with that D-Ring all the time.
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#52124 - 05/01/06 01:36 PM
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Thanks for the suggestions guys.
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#52125 - 05/01/06 03:17 PM
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fpmdl3,
Joe over at the MXO helped me out with getting one of those.
I have a hook installed at the tiedown points on the frame rail just behind the bumper on the opposite side of the muffler.
There are already 2 holes in the frame. Hoppy, as I see, did the same thing but I used a drop down bracket. The bracket is pretty much a piece of thick steel with matching holes, it's about an inch thick. Drill a third hole in the frame, add the bracket and attach the hook.
P.M. Pinoy on the MXO for more details, and he'll give you great advice.
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#52126 - 05/01/06 03:47 PM
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jeff what do you do if u get stuck, what process do you use to get yourself unstuck and how do people attach straps to the back of you?
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#52127 - 05/01/06 04:02 PM
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Originally posted by gprsh924: jeff what do you do if u get stuck, what process do you use to get yourself unstuck and how do people attach straps to the back of you?
thanks Well, the hook is right there in the back.
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#52128 - 05/01/06 04:26 PM
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yeah it looks like you would just latch on a toe rope, where did you get the hook show in your pic JeffW?
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#52129 - 05/01/06 05:08 PM
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Truck accessory stores, fleet supply stores, and ag supply stores should have the hooks; if nothing else check ebay. Alternatively you could get a recovery bumper. I should get mine finished this weekend I just need to put plate lights on it. You might be able to bolt something on where the hitch is (or would be) bolted to the frame. I wouldn't pull much from there without the frame stiffeners though, it isn't really built to take a lot of abuse.
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#52130 - 05/01/06 05:26 PM
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Originally posted by Mike704: yeah it looks like you would just latch on a toe rope, where did you get the hook show in your pic JeffW? I got it on ebay for ten or fifteen bucks. Looks like they have 'em from $7 to $35. ebay So for $7 plus $10.40 shipping, you can get a 10,000# tow hook.
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#52131 - 05/01/06 05:52 PM
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Thank you everyone for the response. It seems like it will work out for me. I asked this question because 2 days ago I had to pull out my friend who has a 1982 jeep. I had to go throuth thick mud and a few hills here and there, to get him out. I also had my friends tacoma help me pull to. He was pulling me and I was pulling the jeep. Anyways, it would of been easier if I had a better toe hook in the back, rather than tieing the rope to the hithc. But it worked. I will try put up a pic of my car. Maybe mike704 can help me. He lives by me.
Sorry for long post.
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#52132 - 05/01/06 06:41 PM
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so i assume then that the toe hook that attatches to the hitch used the big bolt with the pin to secure it? Thanks
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#52133 - 05/01/06 08:14 PM
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ok now i see i did not see the hook at first but now i understand how that works, thanks
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#52134 - 11/01/06 06:06 PM
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Been using this for over 5 years with no problems at all: http://www.acehardware.com/product/index.jsp?productId=1288897 Bonus, it can be used on any other 01-04 Xterra that might otherwise not have a rear tow point on it. Brent
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#52135 - 12/01/06 05:56 AM
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I never liked the idea of pulling from the shackle mount. If I break a tow hook it just means that I am still stuck but still have the possability to be recovered. If I break a shackle mount, unless I carry a welder, I'll be stuck on the trail with a very interesting problem.
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#52136 - 12/01/06 07:41 AM
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Originally posted by Muzikman: I never liked the idea of pulling from the shackle mount. If I break a tow hook it just means that I am still stuck but still have the possability to be recovered. If I break a shackle mount, unless I carry a welder, I'll be stuck on the trail with a very interesting problem. Twice I have seen someone winched using the shackle as the attachment point and the shackle was pulled right off the frame. It does make for an interesting trail repair.
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#52137 - 12/01/06 11:12 AM
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Winching from the shackle itself is stupid. The portion that is taking the load in my setup is welded to the frame and has taken plenty of hard yanks. I'm comfortable with it.
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#52138 - 12/01/06 12:31 PM
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JeffW - or anybody else that wants to chime in - have you ever had any problems with your strap comming off of the receiver mounted hook?
I am trying to figure out why I should or shouldn't spend $40-50 on a receiver mounted shackle when 4 wheel parts is selling a receiver mounted hook, strap, regular shackle and bag for $59.
So is there a huge advantage to using a shackle instead of a hook? It seems to me that the majority of the time, the answer would be no.
Opinions?
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#52139 - 12/01/06 01:17 PM
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you don't really need to have anything back there, in the tow hitch... The handy-dandy yuppie special (d-ring or hook) looks nice, but it's really a waste of $$.
I mean, if you have it sitting around, then by all means, feel free. But you can have the same effect by just fishing the strap into the hitch & securing it w/ a hitch pin. Only reason you would HAVE to have the suburbanite special, is if you're using a 3" or larger recovery strap, as those are pretty hard to fit into a receiver. The 2" is perfect, though, and honestly, is already more than enough for our size vehicle anyways.
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#52140 - 12/01/06 01:50 PM
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I use 2 straps and one is 2" and the other is 3".Yes you can fit a 2" strap in tot hte receiver but wouldn't be easier if you just hooked it over something rather than trying to sneak the strap in there? Especially when your attachment point is under water or filled with mud.
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#52141 - 12/01/06 02:16 PM
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What is the part number of the bag and kit from 4wheel parts?
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#52142 - 12/01/06 02:18 PM
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#52143 - 12/01/06 04:37 PM
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I believe the side loads on a hitch pin by a strap, as the strap would tend to concentrate the force at the middle of the pin as it tightened, could bend/break the hitch pin...and the solid receiver mount distributes the load across the entire exposed pin section. I agree that the d-shackle sticking out in back there is a departure angle nightmare (But apparently a good bumper lance...) ...and if I had my druthers, a simple frame mounted hook is fine. I have D-shackles laying around my garage, so popping one in is the easy way out for a tow point in back...But I can't say I'm pleased with it, other than that it works great for recovery. At least the new rear bumper carrier (I'll get soon) has tow points built into it.
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#52144 - 13/01/06 06:02 AM
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Originally posted by TJ: I believe the side loads on a hitch pin by a strap, as the strap would tend to concentrate the force at the middle of the pin as it tightened, could bend/break the hitch pin...and the solid receiver mount distributes the load across the entire exposed pin section. Guess you haven't seen a strap lately... The loop end is several inches thick/broad. It's a 2" receiver hole. Put it in, and it fills the whole thing. The loop ends never flatten out, hence the loading is along the entire shaft of the pin. You would've had a good point, if you said the receiver shackle puts the pin in double shear, so the pin has twice the strength as with the strap... But you didn't. So you're still wrong. Either way, it doesn't matter. The pin is stronger than the hitch it's attached to. That's intentional... Can't afford to have trailers falling out because the hitch pin wasn't strong enough.
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