Chia...while I agree with some of what you said...I have to disagree with one point you made (and before you ask..I've been here since 2003, I changed my username to suit the color of my new X)...but is it not correct that "mature" people will not flame new members, or call them names and insult them...but rather, they would say, in a mature matter, "you can search", or "that's not a smart thing to do"?

I don't know. XOC gets a bad rap on many regional Xterra boards because of behavior like this from both sides of the "noob vs. veteran" fence. Just calling it like I see it, and have seen it. Frankly, you can do what you want to a "noob", it's up to you...but it's how you portray XOC as a representative and "veteran member" that will dictate how XOC is seen by others in the Xterra community.

Honestly, anyone that does donuts in a 4000+lb SUV is not only endangering themselves, but potentially others around them...and I think it's stupid to the point of absurdity. Are all Canadians stupid? No, but I've met some pretty fu(king stupid Canadians. Are all Americans ignorant, arrogant, or illiterate? No, but likewise, there are many members of the American population that should look into suicide as the only option.

For the member that asked the original question about doing something dangerous (in ANY vehicle)...I don't buy the whole "it was just a question" thing either. You had to know that you would get shit for asking a question like that. That's called ignorance. And just so you know, ignorance is not the same as stupidity...so it's not an insult...doing donuts in an Xterra is stupidity...not knowing whether you should do it or not is ignorance. Doing it anyway is just assinine.

The comment about kicking someone's ass if they said that to your face instead of from behind a computer screen....well, I've learned in my 35 years that 99% of people that say "too bad you can't say that to my face, because I'd kick your ass"...either have never been in a fight in their lives, have seen too many action movies, or wouldn't have the balls to actually throw the first punch. Never say anything until you know the score. NEVER size up an opponent on the internet...for all you know, the guy you're "taunting" with the "my e-dick is bigger than yours attitude" could very well be a sociopathic lunatic, and you'd end up with your picture on a milk carton....oh well....

....doing donuts in ANY SUV is stupid, and ignorant...

Dave.

Posts like this are definatly the reason why many X owners have stopped looking at XOC. I will never understand why anyone would be so rude to another person regardless of the question(s) being asked. It usually takes a stupid ingnorant person to call another person stupid. This forumn really sucks because of the way that the so called "veterens" (probably roast me for my spelling now)flame and roast someone that asks a question. You all have so much time that you can sit on a computer all day when you should be working getting 1000's of posts, but you can't take the time to be polite like a decent person. All you flamers are a bunch of A - holes!!

And calling Canadians stupid, well, if even 1/2 of the 33 million people in Canada ARE stupid, there would still be about 100 million more stupid people in the great US of A.

I have a video of me doing donuts in a Bobcat, and a F250 with a plow and sander on it.

Yes, I am both American and stupid.

What kind of sander? A palm sander, a belt sander, a bench-top combination sander with a disk and a belt (those are handy)? Regardless of the type of sander, that was a poor choice my friend. That sander could have gone flying out of the truck and injured a passerby. How would that make you feel? I believe you would be saddened by such an occurrance.

That being said, I have done donuts in several vehicles of various catigories. I am a redneck American male and it is required of me. If you can't do donuts you'll never be able to impress the right kind of girl and you'll end up marrying the ugly cousin.

ah, yes.

glad to know we can always count on you Mitch to help put things into perspective.

See, now that explains it all.

You make valid points about the flaming and the "veterans" But making it a Canada vs. US of A debate isn't necessary. Be the better person and just leave it alone. Let the other people who want to be a-holes in this thread be the a-holes. You come out better on top in the end.

Some people just have nothing better to do than flame others because 1) They're insecure about themselves, and 2) They know they'll never meet that person face to face, or there is a slim possibility, and finally 3) It could just be because they're assholes, and don't give a shit...that's the person that really makes themselves look like the asshole in the end. It takes thick skin to be on XOC..and as long as you can tell someone to f-off every now and then...I think it all works out. Screw 'em, and just get on with your life...God knows they're not.

Well shit ive done donuts in my truck even came close to rolling the damn thing a few times but you know what.... i never had anyone in the truck with me... either late at night or early in the am with no traffic around...and you know what everyone here has done something stupid in their vehicle and if you think you havent please demonstrate your ability to walk across water.

Dave is right just because you have thousands of posts etc doesnt make you the all knowing person or give you the right to openly harrass or flame a person. Shew...ok...im done...for now.

Tim

I forgot while readung these posts,

Is this about donuts, or about the difference between americans and canadians?

I dont know, so I will address both:

Not to say I have never done anything stupid in my X, but I have never tried a donut in my X, and prob never will, although I have accidentally slid on the ice into a curb.

As for the difference between canadians and americans? Canadians seem to live a little more north in a colder climate, other than that we are both humans and both have ignorant people around us, so I wouldnt say there is much of a difference.....

As for the difference between canadians and americans? Canadians seem to live a little more north in a colder climate, other than that we are both humans and both have ignorant people around us, so I wouldnt say there is much of a difference.....

Well said, and we should leave it at that!!!!

Lets do a tally... how many xterra's have rolled over from doin' donuts?

ok, now how many xterra's have rolled over from offroading?

NOW who's stupid?

this whole thread.

Holy crap did that F* up your alignment? I slid into a curb once in my old lexus on a sandy road and got a flat. My friend did the same in his Ram pickup (much harder though b/c his back end slid out) and i doubt his truck will never be fully aligned ever again.

I wasnt go really fast, was just turning left through an intersection, about 5mph, and just after I straightened out slid parellel into the curb(both wheels at the same time.....I dont think it did anything to my alignment, I wasnt going fast enough....

I have done a pretzel...but never a donut...too fattening

One thing is for sure with both Americans and Canadians...stupidity is not a limited edition item.

I found myself a little sideways (for some mysterious reson, unbeknownce to me - my VDC was switched off ) once this summer on wet, freshly-laid pavement in a parking lot and decided to just give a little more juice and turn a bit more and VIOLA ~ instant gratification : )

WOW! What a thread
I've slung her around in the mud a bit and I think the bottom line is the X is built for FUN-have at it. Just do so safely and think about what you want before you execute. Have fun, happy trails and be safe