okay so i searched and i read, and i read, and i ....

Are there any definitive answers as to what lifts are available now, and what lifts will be available and exactly when? Of the lifts that are available now, where can we get 'em and how well do they do their job?

From reading the other posts, I can't get any clear answers - I hear one guy called a place and they said 4 weeks, another guy called, and they said they're shipping next week. i dunno

In the end, I am trying to put a specific set of 33x12.50s on my '05 X and I want to do it this weekend (it's my birthday ) - is there something out now, that I can order to fit these bad boys on my truck in a timely manner? Or what?

I think you can safely make other plans for this weekend.

The stock size is 32", you want a new 33" tire that sticks out only 1/2" further than stock....So - If you take a few simple measurements, you will see you have more than enough room to mount 33's. (An extra 1/2" around the tire you have now)



You don't need a lift to mount 33's on an '05.



Let that sink in, roll it around....feel the joy seep in....

OK - Now, just get the new tires....be happy.

Actually TJ he has a set of 31's on there unless he has the 75 series then you would be correct but since he has an S edition like me then he should only have the 70 series which is a 31.

You do if you want to mount 33x12.50

you do, you don't - sounds like everything is just speculation - guess I'm going to be trying things out this weekend. I know that the 285/75s (32.8") fit, but may rub a little. I imagine I think I'm going to need a little something to stuff some 33x12.50s - but the question(s) is/are what? and more importantly when? Any smaller lift options (not calmini, not daystar - btw, when are these available?)?

The only one that has the smallest lift out there right now is Daystar.

and the daystar is confirmed to be shipping now? has it been released or still in the r&d stage? I haven't seen anybody on here with it yet.

I'm still getting mixed communications about the thing. It should have already been released but it's not showing up on their website yet. I don't know. The last thing I heard from the guy that the company used his truck to do the mock up on was that it's suppost to be out already.

The scenario as described involved the need to mount a specific set of 33's this weekend.

The wheel wells of the S and the OR, etc., are exactly the same, so it does not matter which he has.

Most 33's are less than 33", and 32.8" would be about average-ish for most 33's, or even larger....so the 285/75/16's are aready 33's for all intents and purposes.

It looks like this is a close enough fit that he can just get the damn tires now, and do the lift later when available, etc....

...Hence the recommendation to get the tires now, and enjoy them.



If they rub a little, so what? Plastic rub is no big deal, and tends to be self clearancing/easily trimmed if desired, etc.

Now, if the question is the width, the 285's vs the 305's = a difference of 20 mm, or sticking out roughly 10 mm per sidewall, depending upon which tire, maybe a range of 10-20 mm total, or around an inch or so more clearance needed than for the 285's (11.5's...)...

....a few twists of the turn stop bolts should address full lock related issues.

Has anyone run into other well related clearance restrictions, like coil or shock clearance, etc?

If so, an SL would not fix that under compression, only at ride height, and a BL would be needed for full articulation, etc.

The rubbing is not at full turn, its at about 70% turn. Would twisting the turn stops still work?

Pony - If it rubs at 70%, but NOT at full lock, as in at around 2/3 lock it hits something, but not before or after that, then the turn stops would not be an issue...

....if it essentially hits AT 70%, and can't go anyfurther, then 70% has BECOME full lock...and the turn stops would help stop it, but you'd be losing way more turning radius than you'd want.

Key Questions for diagnosis/putting this to bed.

What hits what at 70%?

Can you reach full lock by passing the 70% hit point?

Alright, so far we have not conquered any of the tasks at hand. Let's organize this a little.

1. What lifts are currently confirmed available - meaning someone has actually taken delivery of it?

2. 32.8s fit and accordingly a tire labeled 33" is actually smaller and SHOULD fit as well - although nobody has confirmed this - correct?

3. What lifts will be available and who has dates?

oh, and 4. Do the 32.8s require turn stop adjustments or just some minor plastic trimming?

TJ-

Why don't you just buy him the tires and drive over to his house to prove that you're right?!

There are NO lifts currently available. A few weeks ago they said Daystar would be taking orders for their 2" lift in 2 weeks. That was two weeks ago and have not heard anything since. Give them a call and ask.

Calmini will have a 5" lift. No date on availability

SLR will have a 7" I think it is but also No date on availablity.

285/75R16's have been proven to fit. Anything else I do not know.

someone has put 33" tires on their truck, and it has workied with little rubbing, though I do not know the specifics of it. defibvt has the daystar lift, but that is because he test fitted it. nobody else has recieved it.

looks like we'll just have to see about the tire fitting issue. Even though I'm good friends of the owners of the shop I'm going through, it's a pain in the ass to order in tires and wheels and not have them fit, then have to re-order and wait all over again. I Googled Daystar, but haven't found a site for them (just distributors)or a number. Anybody got there number, I'll give them a call, or if somebody has talked to them recently, tell us what you know. I really would like to get my wheels/tires/suspension mods (atleast my first round) done before the new year.

Thanks

Jay -

I would if I had the time and money....I'm that nice a guy.

After all, it IS his birthday.



Seriously...there's nothing to prove about the size tires, go the the tirerack.com banner above, and search for the specific tire you are getting/have, and it will list the dimensions....go to the driveway/Parking lot, etc...and measure the wells.

The questions are down to:

1. Does he need a lift to mount the tires?

2. Will the tires rub so bad he can't drive it around?

3. Is the size he's looking to mount only a fraction of an inch in any one direction larger than the largest stock tire size?

4. All pre-'05 X's front tires hit on part swing, as the rear of the front tire whacks the back of the well at the plastic mud flap ledge, if the tires are larger than stock, and the solution has always been to trim off that section of the ledge to let the tire clear as it swings by....is it the same on the '05's?

5. Is what ever hits going to move out of the way if the X is lifted?

6. Is what ever hits going to be back in the way under compression, if it cleared at ride height?

7. Will a BL solve 6.?

8. Will 33's fit well enough to drive around until the lifts or other solutions are available?

I believe the answers to all of these will result in 33's fitting on a stock '05...back in 2003, when I was at the press release of the new X, I measured the wells, and there was enough room for 33's then.

As we have some people that have mounted 33's on stock '05's already...as far I I know, with the OEM rims, they fit.

If people are running aftermarket rims with less than the stock backspacing, then all bets are off, and any tire can rub on compression, etc.



Plan B/Failsafe:

Go to tire shop, and try the ones you want on for size, if they fit, HAPPY BIRTHDAY! If they don't, trim what hits, and enjoy...or, get a rain check from the wife, and wait for the BL/SL or what ever will fix it.



The shop I use lets me test tires before buying, try on for size, and trim offending plastic, etc...and most shops will be willing to mount to check for fit.

The only shops that are a PITA are chains that will not allow their staff to mount any tire other than an OEM replacement, etc.

As said by Fastdmr, at 70% turn with 285/75 its hitting plastic, but once it passes the 70% mark, then the rest is fine. Height does not seem to be the issue. Its width that may be the problem. Do 33s fit....sure they do.....but the real question is how wide can you go. After taking measurements, i think if u go 12.50 wide, your hitting sheet metal. But then again, you dont know until you test fit.

sounds good, I'll let you guys know how it goes sometime next week after some trial and error

oh yeah - and if anybody's got that Daystar #...

Thanks

Doh!

I just remembered where they hit...the skirt.

Its a soft plastic piece, some people have used a heat gun, and molded the plastic back so it clears, others have just let the tire wear a hole in the soft plastic, without damage or marks on the tires.

They swing past the skirt, and are clear after that.

www.daystarweb.com

wheels and tires ordered - update with pics on Wednesday. No luck on the lift yet, hopefully hear back by Monday.

I don't really know if I like that Daystar company too much - I emailed them last friday, still have no response. I called them today, and they said "two weeks" - which to my understanding, is what they've been saying for months!

Wheels came in today, but the wrong damn lug pattern, re-ordered, they'll be in tomorrow morning

I've gotten the same exact responses as you have. Nothing. I've e-mailed them twice with no response. I've been to busy to try to call them as of yet. I figure if they can't take the time to respond back to an e-mail then I'm not going to waste my time in trying to call them. Every other company responds back. Hell even Calmini wrote back to me in regards to the SAS kit being able to fit on the new '05 or not. Granted it took them a couple of days but they still got back to me.