A chicken and an egg are lying in bed. The chicken is leaning against the headboard smoking a cigarette, with a satisfied smile on its face.
The egg, looking a bit pissed off, grabs the sheet, rolls over, and says, "Well, I guess we finally answered THAT question.

Two guffaws out of four.

HOLY HELL!!!! 1980 is calling!! They want their joke back!

You can even get it on a T-shirt, if you want to give people a visual

Snorg Tees - Chicken or The Egg

Hell, I was in Denver all last week and the lack of oxygen caused a brain fart .

As far as the ORIGINAL question goes...which came first, the chicken or the egg...

The egg came first.

trying to stir up a new "treadmill" thread, huh?

I agree. The egg had to come first. Can't have a chicken unless it's hatched from an egg. Now, if the egg is on a treadmill, that is going the same speed in reverse as the egg's wheels are going, will the egg turn into a chicken and take off?

I think you'd just scramble the egg.



Besides...dinosaurs and frogs, etc... laid eggs...so there were eggs WAY before there were chickens.

:p

But... Did those dinosaurs first eat the chickens or the eggs for breakfast?

Eggs, because the chickens ran away.

But if they were on a treadmill, how were they able to generate enough forward thrust relative to the ground to move?

Flux Capicitor? That time continuum thingy.

How do you know?....Were you there? Frogs do now.....but did they always?.....And which came first.....the frog or the egg?

The egs had to come first. The chicken evolved out of whatever was in it.

Neither-the treadmill was going too fast, splattered the egg on the airplane tryiing to take off.

OK, eggs were around before even land animals...sharks were laying eggs before there were dinosaurs.

So sharks came before chickens....so eggs came before chickens.

And, creatures were eating eggs way before there were chickens as well.

BTW - They extracted DNA from the bone marrow of a T-Rex bone that had been fossilized, and found that it was closely related to, that's right, a chicken....as in as far as the DNA went, a T-Rex is an early bird....albeit an early bird that was probably more likley to have been EATEN by worms.



Which is funny, and also pretty much locks up the question as to if birds are the desendants of dinosuars...as they obviously are, now.

You can't extract DNA from a fossil as there is no DNA in a fossil.

The hangover or the booze?

Don't tell me you never drank a hangover away.

That was what had always been thought...the specific POINT was that they DID find soft tissue WITHIN the fossilzed bone. (Showed up an a scan...)

That was the exciting thing...no one ever thought it could happen...but, they recovered T-Rex soft tissue, WITH intact DNA.



(And then said, MMMM, tastes like chicken....)

I found an article claiming they found soft tissue in a T-Rex fossil, but I can't find anything saying they found DNA or that they did any type of test that matched it in any way to a chicken.

That being said, I do believe the egg came first. That's the only thing that makes any kind of sense. If you say what came first, the chicken or the chicken egg, then the chicken came first, it just hatched from a preprotochicken egg.

I googled, here's the first hit explaining how they extracted and analyzed the DNA, etc.

A comparison by Asara’s team of the amino-acid sequence from the T. rex collagen to a database of existing sequences from modern species showed it shared a remarkable similarity to that of chickens. Amino acids are the molecular building blocks of proteins; there are 20 of them used by organisms to build proteins, and their precise order is determined by instructions found in DNA.

“I’m grateful that he was able to get the [amino acid] sequences out. That’s the Holy Grail,” Schweitzer told LiveScience.

This finding supports the idea that chickens and T. rex share an evolutionary link and bolsters previous research showing that birds evolved from dinosaurs and that birds are living dinosaurs.



http://www.livescience.com/animalworld/070412_dino_tissues.html

Not saying that chickens aren't modern day dinosaurs. Not saying that they aren't related to T-Rex. Just saying that there is nothing saying that they recovered DNA from a T-Rex fossil.

They've been able to get DNA out of fossils for some time now...the problem was more related to finding good specimens to DO it on.

There' a few techniques that can be used depending upon the conditions, etc.

They did only so far sequence proteins in the collegen though, so the DNA claim was premature...they determined the chicken ancestory from the collegen's protiens sequences, not DNA sequences.

I was talking to someone who told me they had the DNA...but it was incorrect.

So while they COULD do it if they could find a good specimen...that's the problem.

There's a HUGE number of teams in or heading to Mongolia though...and they are BENT on finding a good specimen, etc.

Lets just say the opptimism rubbed off and we got ahead of ourselves (No DNA yet)

MGJ