cant wait to get rid of it, im going to try to trade it for a diesel liberty since i drive truck i can fill it off my truck. i still have to buy it but at least its a tax deduction!!!! if i cant work out a good trade then its off to detroit and leave it downtown with the keys in the ignition.

The thought has crossed my mind unfortunately

Agreed I'm just not quite sure what I would get...ahh

We will be driving the Honda Del Sol for all around town things.

I had thought that it was a wash driving the X with its 15-17mpg and 87 octane VS driving the S2000 at 25mpg and 93 octane (required) - but I ran the numbers and I actually save a fair amount by driving the Honda (though it hurts that much more to have to buy that premium gas )

Would be stupid to get rid of it (the X), though... it's almost paid off.

And I wouldn't anyway... love it too much and have put too much into mods.

Can't unload it fast enough! I have had more than enough of the TERRIBLE gas consumption. With gas now over $3.00 a gallon I now admit defeat and surrender to the gas sipin smaller car. I'll take my losses and get out while i can.

I am just going to slow down. I did a hair over 60 mph on a trip and got 22.7 mpg. On the same trip with similar conditions at over 70, I got 20-21 mpg.

I will remove the air dam and basket off the roof rack. Check my tires at least once a week and try to investigate a good cold air intake box.

I need something to pull my boat! :rolleyes:

Good advice in the last post. Change driving habits. It can really make a difference. Don't feel the need to step it up to 80mph on the freeway. Run 60 and get 25% better economy.

Run 40psi in the tires. Make sure your plugs are gapped right. Get those extra bags and boxes of crap out of the truck when you don't need them to lighten the load.

Might not make a lot of difference, but even a little is something.

Unfortunatly I just bought the X last weekend so I definatly won't be selling it anytime soon! You just have to roll with it. I love driving the X so I will just deal with the gas.

Diesil is a band-aid fix, better MPG on the Liberty but the cost isnt much lower (2.77 compared to 2.99) both of which are getting higher. My plan, ease up on the accelorator, bike the two miles to work (which isn't something everyone can do) and I might remove the air dam to improve MPG. I'm holding out for fuel cells, give it time, they are comming. My current costs are about $40 a week if I go somewhere on the weekend. To me, its worth the enjoyment I get from driving it.

take your foot off the gas- it's not going anywhere anyway.. dont drive around like an aimless bastard.. and skip eating dinner out once a week.. the rising gas prices arent that bad- it's just sticker shock. its not a good reason to ditch your truck.

Not getting rid of mine anytime soon..

Mine's paid off in 16 days, so I'll hold on to it, thanks.

We're looking at moving closer into town. If I could cut 20-24 miles off my daily round-trip commute, I could save a ton. Hell, I would be able to bike/walk every day possible to save more. I would need it to pay for higher taxes.

Definitely going to be riding the bike to work more and probably have to cut back on the monthly road trips, which sucks because those are a key component to getting my fledgling biz going. Oh well.

No F'n way I'm getting rid of the X, though. I'll be damned if I'm going to give it away for someone else to enjoy.

Time to buy a Honda Insight or Toyoya Prius.

I thought about it, but I'm doing a new gas mileage check these next few weeks, and I'm goin real easy all the time on the pedal. I'm going to see what I can get out of it takin it real easy. I'll report back with the results.

I actually looked into the Honda Civic Hybrid this afternoon.....

Been riding my bicycle to work, store etc. Only driving the X when I have to. Stays in the garage most of the time now.

Bah!! All those who are gonna dump the X and get something else are gonna get KILLED on the trade in value of the X...You couldn't pick a worse time to trade in a SUV...For the huge loss you will take on getting rid of your X you are far better off spending 3K on a POS 4-banger and using that to commute with...

So you are saying you are going to steal gas from your company's vehicle to fill your own?

Right now I have no plans on getting rid of the X. And if I did I would end up buying a full size pick up again.

I have averaged 20.3 mpg on the last 4 full tanks of gas. I have started changing my driving habits.

Just got mine in June, so im holding on.....
i dont mind tho, I love my X.....plus im only like a mile from work, my ride to the gym is longer.......

-Robb-

if the link was still active i'd post it...my buddies from NeXterra know about this...but there are some good gas saving products on eBay other than the tornado and such that work ...or jsut use common sense and keep your foot off the skinny pedal...me personally? i use cruise control every time im on the highway.

Just shelled out $40 to fill up. Used to cost $20. It sucks but since it's not my daily commuter, filling up once a week isn't going to break the bank. Not yet, anyway. I consider myself very, very lucky. Don't know what I'd do in a different situation.

I'd love to come back and visit our fair planet in 200 years or so to see what history has to say about the way we are fucking up.

damn, how do you average 20mpg, mostly highway im assuming?

I say, (aside from easing up on the pedal), find some other expense in your life that you can do without and put the money toward your thirsty X! And maybe carpool with someone?

I'm riding my bike to work, since its only about 3 miles. I have also changed my driving habits, and since my one ton gets better gas milage, it is being called on more for long distance trips.

No chance of ditching the x. Can you say car pool. Luckily my wife and i teach in the same school so we take the 96 sentra. Much better on gas plus we live near other teachers.

Its crazy how many car these days are only carrying 1 person. We have been f'ing up mother earth so long, it was only a matter of time til she kicked us in the balls. We need the govt to invest less in thier paychecks and more into clean alternative fuel soucres.

It ridiculous in my eyes the fact i can only eat fish that i catch ounce a month.

What loss? Mine is a lease and it is up next month. Hello Nissan here is your gas eatin truck back. LOL

I have an easy solution. My mom drives only 2 miles to work so during the week we trade cars. I get to putt around in an old 90 Accord and keep my Xterra for the fun stuff

My wife just started working again after 10 years of being a stay-at-home Mom. Good timing, eh? I just have her drop me off at work and pick me up on the way home. Ta-da, I don't have to drive my X to work (she has an X, too).

On the other hand, our gas savings is marginal in this circumstance, since I only commute 1.8 miles to work. 1/4 tank of gas usually gets me to and from work for two weeks.

I would say it is probably 60% highway driving. But I have very few stops (sign/lights) when I go into work at 4:30 am, so I suppose that helps.

Fuck NO!!! I'll just use this time to start disassembling the engine to install goodies and I'll be driving this instead! It's good for 36 MPG and it goes fast, so why not?

quit driving the x when gas went up to $1.79. drive on job so the wife now drives x, i drive 94 civic with 35-40 mpg. won't get rid of x, just adjust to higher gas prices. vacation in october will be at home (possible local camping at lake) and we may start car pooling three days a week.

Just got the thing. It's not going anywhere. The extra price of gas is not going to break my bank any time soon. I may cut back on the 15 minute trip home for lunch every day. My gym is relocating about half the distance from home that it is now so that will save. May spend some more time in the V6 Mustang instead. It needs some excercise anyway

I'm STAYING!!

The extra cost of gasoline for my X will add about $6-$7 to my weekly fill-up. That's a far cry from the $300-$400 per month it will cost in new car monthly payments My '02 is paid off. The 14 mpg I see hasn't changed since I've owned it (I have the K&N FIPK and a Calmini exhaust sytem installed). The only variable is the price of the gas and that isn't enough of a reason for me to get rid of it. Someone mentioned hybrids and high mpg cars. In my area, there is at least a 4 month wait on the Prius or Civic and expect to pay at least $1500+ over sticker. None of these cars, including the other high mpg cars is as versatile as the X nor as tractable in the winter months. Additionally, I spend alot of time on construction sites. I can't imagine myself dealing with ruts and other construction site obstacles in any of the economy cars................. Just my $.02

Hell No...Would not even think about dumping my X...What for...just like someone mentioned...if you trade in your X, they will screw you anyway...if you get a second car with fantastic MPG's...you still have to pay Insurance for not one but 2 vehicles...just sacrifice some of the good things in life...drink and smoke less or stop completely...stop buying Porno Mags every Month and stop Gambling...all those will save you big bucks...

$20 to fill up your X........

$1.79?!?!?!
I wish... I havent seen that in years.....

Aren't you the unhappy buyer who bought an Xterra without doing research on your needs and what an SUV is and then came here to bitch about its poor gas mileage - when really - you should have known what you were buying.

I use my Xterra for company travel onto construction sites (until today when my battery died). For the time being (This project) my gas costs are paid for by my firm. When this project ends, I will go back to riding BART daily (www.bart.org). So it doesn't really hit me that hard.

Here's a picture that I took Wednesday, January 23, 2002, 9:06:50 AM in Garland, Texas:::



I knew it would be the last time in my life that I'd see it.

Holy crap, $.99 for gas! I haven't seen that anywhere near here since, uhh, 1980 something maybe???

WOW!!!

I remember 14 cents a gallon...when I was a kid in South Carolina.



The X gets about 20 mpg, give or take, depending upon my right foot/traffic, etc.

My Wife's Mini Cooper gets about 36 mpg on her daily slog....but she needs premium.

So - if I decide to give up a hobby I love, I can save money on gas, and mods, etc...if I want to wheel though...by the time you factor in reliability, mileage, carrying capacity, etc...I'd need another X, or give something up.

It stayed at $1.20-$1.30 for quite awhile after that... and then... oh... I don't remember exactly when - but last summer or so it started climbing to 1.50, 1.60, 1.70++++ and lookee where we are now.

This has always been my complaint about the rising prices - I know that they must go up over time due to inflation etc - but the rate at which they jumped up was insane. I am now paying TRIPLE what I was paying just 3 years ago.... tell me someone isn't making out like a damn bandit here.

Until now I was okay, now that it is close to $3 I must do other things. I teacher at a school 3 miles away and rode my bike for the first time this year. Somewhat looking for a POS for this commute during the winter.

I just got a camper and love the mountains too much to get rid of 4x4 for good.

Not going to sell my X, & am not going to stop wheeling either.

I will however likely get a commute-mo-bile.

Its going to be buried with me, i have a beater hyundai gets 35mpg so im not worried. Now if gas gets above 5 bucks id sell the hyundai and get a mo-ped..... or time to find a better job

I am going to try to trade down to a diesel VW car for the good gas mileage but if i do i will really miss the X. It is my favorite car but i cant afford the $3.00 gas to feed it.

I just purchased my Xterra last week. I am prepared for gas prices going higher since I plan on keeping it a long time.

The fact of the matter is if you plan on owning a 4X4 that is truly capable of going off road you are not going to get super gas mileage.

It also helps that I only drive around 12,000 miles per year for both commuting and pleasure.

In other words I plan on keeping mine!

I'll never get rid of my Xterra because I knew when I bought it that the gas mileage sucked. I'll just conserve a little better and deal with the prices. What more can you do?

If anyone on this forum is seriously considering dumping their Xterra because gas prices went up then good riddance. The Xterra was probably some sort of statement vehicle for them and not a true off roader. I can see how using the X as a grocery getter or a means to impress would make these people think about their investment. For me, I bought the X to go off road and paying for gas is my price of admission for my entertainment. Instead of going to a movie every Friday night I'll save my cash so I can go to the mountains.

i have just changed my driving habbits, now i get around 17.5-18 miles per gallon. a lot better than when i had a lead foot.

If i could, maybe i would trade it for a Scion TC or some other smaller, nice handling car. But i am happy with the X, and while gas is high and only going to get higher, this is just a spike for now...

I plan on limiting my driving till this spike is over.

Good thing i bought two bikes this summer!!!

We are not fucking up the planet. I love it when insignificant humans want to think that our actions are affecting the planet in such a way that it's going to implode.

The earth was here a billion years before we got here and it will be here a billion years after we leave. It's annoying to hear the greenies cry foul because the water temperature in the gulf has risen by 2 degrees in ten years. Don't these wackos realize that 10 years is a blink of the eye in earth years? This whole weather pattern we are experiencing is nothing more then earth's natural life process.

Don't get me wrong. I don't believe that we should just $#@! up the environment but we should keep this whole environmentalist shit in perspective. We need to understand that no matter what we do, if mother nature wants to blow, burn, flood or shake there is nothing we can do to stop it.

Dump the X? No way! Dump the idiot in the White House...that's what we need to do.

If you do the math...we were paying $2 a gallon for a while..now it looks to go up, and then level off in the fall around $3...call it $4 for a worst case scenario.

So, if I get 20 mpg, and drive 12K mile a year, that's 50 gallons of gas a month, or about 11.5 gallons per week.

11.5 times $2 = $23 in gas/week

11.5 x $4 = $46/week...a difference of $23/week just due to the increase in the cost of gas.

Now, lets say you get a 30 mpg commuter car...

going the same 12,000 miles...and using 33.3 gallons a month, or about 7.7 gallons a week...

7.7 x $4 = $30.80 in gas per week....

So - At the scary $4 a gallon gas price...we can drive a 30 mpg commuter car and pay about $31 a week in gas, or the X, and pay around $46 a week in gas...

The difference is about $ 15/week....or, ~$780 a year.

If you sell the truck/buy another car, you will lose WAY more than $780...in NJ, the insurance difference alone on the second car can be more than that. (X's are not expensive to insure, some of those rice burners are VERY expensive to insure)

I think my trade in value is around $8k...I paid more like $17K...what can I get that's as reliable, and gets super duper economy for the differnce?

I expect used/new econo car prices to shoot through the roof pretty soon....wiping out the cost savings the way getting the diesel option used to require a 15 pay back period to recoup the extra potion purchase cost.



Those of you who get less than 20 mpg in your X's will also get less than 30 mpg on the commuter cars, due to your hilly terrain, right foot, traffic, and other reasons you are unable to get better mileage compared to other drivers elsewhere, etc.

So - for my $15, I can keep my truck, still off road, and get on with my life, such as it is.

If gas stabilizes later in the year closer to $3, my bill drops to $34.60/week at 20 mpg, and to $ 23.08/week at 30 mpg...a difference of only $11.52 to keep the X, or a measely $599/yr.

Assuming the gas prices will steadily rise, it could actually make more financial sense to try to squeeze as much mileage out of the X now while prices are circa $3.

I had considered parking the X and driving my Altima for a while. I could do this for the next few years and rack the mileage up on the Altima. Assume the gas price closes in on $5 around this time and I'll have a low mileage SUV that will cost too much to run and be even harder to sell and a high mileage car that is closer to the end of its life cycle.

Better for me to drive the X now because in 10 years we'll look back to the good old days when gas was only $3/gal.

TJ, thanks for that breakdown. It doesn't seem quite so bad when you put it like that.

Can I second that, great analysis.

Don't forget the other "hidden" costs of that POS beater. You know, like the $90 alternator that dies in the middle of a rainstorm, the $200 exhaust system that falls off in the middle of rush hour traffic, the $15 brake hose that decides to let go due to dry rot - prompting another couple hundred dollars in brake work to replace the other dry-rotting components....

Been there, done that.

I'm actually gonna give up my gym membership to help pay for the extra gas...plus I plan on getting a bike and riding it to work(5-7 miles each way) to stay fit and replace the gym...not to mention I only owe 6k on the X and hope to have it paid off around Thanksgiving!

I just got my X: Yes it was a conscious decision! I may cringe at the pump, but damn, I love this ride!!!

I am gonna drive more!, eat less....shed 30lbs and thank the gas crisis.....

Hell no! I just bit the bullet and set the cruse to 55 (actual speed limit), hurts like hell but with 95% highway to work it has to make a difference. Plus it also gives me a backwards way to justify getting an intake and exhaust .

I'm keeping mine. Doing other things to save money.

-Cut down on my daily Starbucks to 3 time's a week
- Limit long road trips.
- Try to walk more instead of driving.

Thinking about

- Takeing the bus or riding to work a few days a week.

Im getting rid of my X but im getting an 05 NISMO Frontier. No wife, no kids (that i know of) and only beer and my truck to occupy my money...what the hell.

Tim

That's EXACTLY what i'm doin'. I was looking into buying one of those street legal scooters that get like 125 mpg. but it's cheaper to just ride my bike 8 miles to work. get a workout, ditch the gym membership, and transportation to work for free!

no way! I love my xterra, i did however buy an older honda prelude which i've rebuilt the engine. but i'll never get rid of my truck. honda should get around 35mpg though; cool!

I'm staying with mine as well. It would be mad for me to get rid of it now. I'll loose too much money on it. I'll have to bite the bullet. I wish I could bike to work but since I work 31 miles from home that's not gonna work.

Well I'm glad to see that we all actually agree on something. The Xterra is the shit and worth every dollar it takes to make it go!

Thinking of upgrading to an 05 myself. Until gas hits $4.00 a gallon (Probably by next weekend) I figure it only makes a $20 a week difference, which I can easily save by not eating out.

get rid of my 05X...no way man...I am looking for some dumbass to dump his and I am going to buy another one.

No way, I love my X. Plus how do you get muddy in a small car?

I was in Columbia SC and saw the gas prices jump up every day after the storm hit. Almost like clock work the prices would go up 10 - 20 cents and hour at this one station. Even saw some people fighting over how much fuel they were buying.
I had a rental car and it's cheaper to return it needing fuel than buy it at the pump. $3.00 at National vs. $3.49 at Mobil.

I've got less than a year before the bugger's paid off, and starting in March, if not sooner, I'm working full-time at home anyway. If I can just hold out till then...

Have to jump on the analysis about two pages ago...

Because I have no life, and got high stressed by the wife (we have a Jeep and an X) I actually - yes, actually did this - created a spreadsheet comparing the costs of gas and pay off time for both of our rigs.

Found out, that even with three years of payments left on my X, I would save $4000 over trading it for a Prius. I also compared it to Saturns, Hondas, Ford Focus, and the Kia Rio. The only thing that saved me money over the X were ridculous scenarios like buying the Kia Rio (baseline by the way power steering optional) - and then the savings was mostly from the low payments vice the gas savings.

Yes - I even factored in 4% annual inflation.

So - while I totally geeked out, I statistically crushed the wife's opposition and we are keeping both rigs. Oh yes - I just put my Shrockwork sliders on the X.

Im keeping my 04 X. Allthough I just picked up a 2000 hyndai accent 4 cyl 5spd. 35 mpg. Ill be driving that to and from work While the X sits in the driveway unless it snows. Invested too much into the X to get rid of it now.

I'm not going to sell mine anytime soon and lets face it the value of suv's are going to tank anyway if gas continues to climb.

I have started to combine trips and have gotten even lighter on the throttle. Thanks to the recent gouging I did cancle a trip this weekend to Jackson Hole as while it would of been nice to spend a few days fishing and camping the 400+ dollars just in gas ruled it out especialy when previous trips out there cost between 160 to 200 dollars.

Couple of points here. I have to drive for a living and I have to carry my stuff around with me. I don't need a pickup but I need something that will take me off road at construction sites, etc.

So what can I do to make my 05 a little less gas hungry?

I stripped off anything I don't need from the inside. A 100lbs makes a difference. I removed the back seat cushions, the carpet floor mats they put under the rubber floor mats, the emergency road kit and all the other junk I don't need day to day.

I removed the air dam and basket from the roof rack.

I check my tires at least once a week and keept them at 35 lbs.

I drive a little slower and avoid flooring it all all costs. If I have to give up the right of way, so be it.

In the morning when it is cool, I roll down the windows and enjoy the fresh air and turn off the A/C.

I can tell by the fuel consumption that it has improved already. I was using about 1/4 tank per hundred. I am getting close to 120 miles per 1/4 tank now.

Never better said.

NO WAY IN HELL AM I DUMPING THE X. I need it to live up here and work in the mountains!!! OH and of course go WHEELIN!!

We do however take the Element to more places, but it does have a bumping stereo. I also wear my orange shirt, hat and sunglasses so no one sees me in it.

Great post yesterday from "scottjk", who had to resort to compiling a cost analysis spreadsheet taking into account all known varibles in order to prove to Mrs. Scottjk that it would be financially detrimental in their case to trade their X for something w/ better gas mileage rating. This is a good reminder that many cost factors need to be considered over the total time of ownership, not just fuel mileage rating, to arrive at the bottom line. Insurance and maintenance costs alone vary widely amongst vehicles and can eat up any "savings" in gas. Perhaps "scottjk" will post his spreadsheet as a public service to other X owners who need ammunition to persuade their significant others.

I still plan to get an '06 X when they finally arrive and jettison two vehicles I own now. I haven't done a detailed cost analysis study yet, but I believe that I will save money over the life of my new X by owning only one vehicle instead of two. I also like the added safety factor of a larger vehicle and want the option of having side curtain air bags.

D.B.

I am not getting rid of my '01 X because gas is ridiculously expensive. I've only had it for 2 weeks now, and got it only because my '95 cherokee's rear main seal started leaking oil badly (After only 130k miles). The Xterra is staying, but I have cut back on driving.
And to those who think the Xterra gets bad mileage... try owning (and driving regularly, for me daily!) a 12 cylinder Ferrari !!! That car is truly a gas pig. But DAMN, when you get on the throttle, it is just f****ing exhilirating!!

In a somewhat related matter, an interesting company called United Nuclear claims they are almost ready to start selling kits to convert existing vehicles to run on hydrogen (included is a solar powered hydrogen generator). Although they will have specific kits for various SUVs, they don't have a dedicated kit for the X yet - but you can still buy seperate components to do a conversion. Will be interesting to see if they are hype or reality. If they do have a working product and their prices come down to where it would be economically viable, I would certainly consider converting my X. I will be monitoring their progress.

From their web page United Nuclear Hydrogen Fuel Systems

- D.B.

i am not getting rid of mine i just got it two months ago. Gas prices will go down i am not going to jump ship.

I just got out of a truck that was getting me 10mpg around town, so the X is a step up.....plus....not much of a difference really from 2.50 to 3.00 to make me sell a vehicle.

Updated gas prices.............

wow it went down, last week reg was at WTF..

Yeah - same here...gas did its seasonal summer jump, boosted by the "shortage", and has settled back down to the $3/gal range around here at least...

If anyone does jump, once they realize how falsely inflated the mpg claims are for the replacement rigs...its frying pan to the fire for them.

(EPA sickers are a cruel joke...the manufacturers get to "meet" CAFE requirements, the Gov gets to "show how the regulations improved economy", and the customers are duped into buying the same old shit warmed over with a new sticker on it.)

I know freinds with hybrids rated at around 50 something CITY...and their real world mpg is high 30's...which includes hwy too.

A diesel Liberty gets real world mpg in the mid teens...big whoop.

On the other hand, a guy I wheel with (An X) was complaining he was getting only around 15 mpg or so...he gave me his gallons and odometer reading, and tire size (32's) , and after correcting for the fact that he was going faster than he thought, and going further than he thought, (Due to the larger tires...)... it worked out that he was actually getting closer to 19 mpg...while keeping it under 80 mph.



I had a Mitsubishi Galant company car one year, averaged 17 mpg...I'm averaging 20 mpg in the X....on 33's.



On the plus side...my company now reinburses mileage at $0.40/mile.

Not me! Just bought another one tonight!

Hmmm I’ve been reading along, and given that I need something big enough to haul the boat around with and so I can't get away with a tiny little del sol or similar the X isn't a bad choice. In fact I'm kind of proud of it - and here's why:

Running at 70+ mph on the interstate, fully loaded, in the dead of summer with the A/C cranked on high and towing a boat I still get almost 16 mpg - not bad.

Now the boat on the other hand, She’ll set you back a few. She has a 27 gal tank and factory specs are: 1 hour and 20 min to completely burn off all of that precious fuel at WOT!
Keep in mind she has two engines, that can really suck it down – but she’s oh so fun.

-Later

...from my cold dead hands!!!

Wizard

I just posted over in the 2005 forum but after filling up last night I realized that I got 21 MPG city in my 05 S on my last tank. There is no way that I am dumping the X!! 21 mpg is not to much worse than what I was getting with my Sentra Spec-V (23 city)and I had to put premum in that. I'm driving like a grandma but it works

I do believe that this sums up my feelings on the subject exactly

yeah, i just noticed regular is down to about $3.09..........

Question for all to ponder.

I just bought my x about a month ago but So I am not an expert on them but here goes.

Why does everyone complain about the mileage just because the price went up. Most people I see here have owned their X for a few years at least. So the X gets bad mileage compared to CARS. Every SUV gets worst gas milage then a car. I would think people bought there X for a diffrent reason than how many MPG they get. The 16 I get with my X and the 15 I get with my other truck I am at over 400 monthly in gas but I love both my trucks so I live with it and make changes elswere. I guess all I am trying to say is that the X got bad mileage when we bought them so why complain about it now?

Sorry if offended anyone with this reply.

Not me. My '99 X does just what I bought it for, just the way I want it to. I don't use it to commute. It gets me to the ski areas and the trailheads (or beyond) just fine.

I learned in the 70s how to drive a car for mileage - mine was a 440 wedge. Give it enough gas to get going, let it pull its way up to speed, stay there.

I never did look to this truck for speed and I never saw it as anything other than a truck. Toughness, stability, reliability, carrying capacity were my criteria - not speed, not gas mileage.

I see a lot of folks looking to add speed or looking for a higher HP unit. I'm OK with folks passing me on the highway. The real fun starts when the pavement ends. On trail, with full torque developed by 1700rpm, who needs more horsepower?

Gas lowered to 2.64 here today. Keep going down, down, down.....Thats 10.00 less/ fill up already. Lets break ground on those new refineries and start drilling those wells mr Bush!

Went down for $3.19 to $2.76 here today. I'm a happy camper.

And you guy's over there in the USA think gas is expensive at the moment? Try owning an Xterra over here in the UK with gas at nearly $8.00 a gallon!!!

If gas only cost $3.00 a gallon here we'd be drinking it, not running our cars on it!!!

You guys have plenty of other expensive, socialist problems we will let you keep as well. 8.00/ gallon with our driving distances would never work. I drive an AVERAGE of 800 miles one way to my favorite wheelign spots probably.

Dupes that we are, $3/gal now seems "cheap" haha compared to two weeks ago. But two months ago, we were paying what, $2.30? What does that tell you?

It's the taxes over there in the UK... The overall price of oil is NOT necessarily driven up by 'greedy big oil' as popularly believed... it's mostly driven up (or down) by commodities futures speculators.... people who wouldn't know what to do with a barrel of oil if it was sitting in front of them.

Add to that our lack of refineries partly because of the NIMBYs & BANANAs (Not In My Back Yard, Build Absolutely Nothing Anywhere Near Anything), and we have a problem... Hell, even one of the Saudi princes, visiting W a couple months back said basically "sure, we'll up our production, but it won't do you any good since you don't have the refinery capacity..."

Blaming everything on Big Oil or Greedy Arabs or any one thing is waaaay oversimplifying a complex problem while wearing blinders with your fingers in your ears going 'lalalalalalalala'.

Unless you blame the government, then you're probably right.

I've paid London prices for gas, and while it was cheaper at the time (79p/L I think, this was 2001) it didn't seem so bad overall because I was driving a little Ford rental rollerskate... but it got us where we wanted to go. The weird thing was learning to shift lefthanded.

And paulgw: drink your local ale - it's cheaper & way better for you!

Actually, most people here are NOT complaining about gas milage. Most of the responses in this thread, when asked if they are giving up their X's, range from "not me" to "...from my cold dead hands!!!"

Whenever someone complains here that the X gets "bad" milage, 15 people rag on said person for complaining.

Sure, everyone (not just XOC'ers) is paying for and talking about the situation, but again MOST of the things I hear are statements of prices and political rants, not whining that the milage of their current vehicle sucks. Some people are trading in vehicles as a result, but I think that actually represents a small minority.

Just the results of my ponderings, anyway!

One of the reason's gas is so expensive over here in the UK is that is had to be modified for use in right-hand drive vehicles.

Paulg (or anyone else from the other side of the pond):

Has the UK (and rest of the word) seen the same percentage gas price increases as the USA?
I know you've always paid more, but the media here in the US only seems to report the trends in this country.

I'm assuming this is a global issue, and the media here doesn't bother to report it that way since most of us americans are too self-centered to care anyway.

Not only am I not getting rid of the X, my wife and I are thinking of getting an 02 4x4 next month. Since I traded in my RSX-S ASPEC, I found that not getting speeding tickets leaves you with a little extra gas money!

Do it NROCKX!!! Being a double X family is the only way to go - we just "joined the club" a few days ago. No more "whose turn is it to drive the X?" debates!!!

Oops - back the the topic...

I MUST SAY I LOVE MY X NO MATTER WHAT THE GAS IS. NOW THAT THE GAS BY MY HOUSE IS 2.89 A GALLON I COULD CARE LESS. EVEN WHEN I GOT MY TRUCK ABOUT 2 WEEKS AGO I KNEW IT WOULD BE BAD BUT HEY I DONT CARE. GAS IS GAS AND EVERYONE NEEDS IT....I WOULD NEVER GET RID OF MY X. I LOVE IT!!!!

Click me!
& Me Too

(this is referring to your caps lock)

Um, this may be a stupid question Paulgw, but why would a right hand side vehice require modifications to the gas???

Because the right hand sided muffler bearings require different kind of gas lube.

Petrol (gas) is at an all time record high price both here and in the rest of Europe!

Petrol is sold in litres over here and the price was up to 1.07p a litre at some motorway service stations. We thought that petrol would never go above .99 a litre as the pumps only go up to.99p! We we're wrong, some service stations are selling petrol at 500ml.

But now things have died down a bit, a litre has dropped to about 89.9p a litre. Still really expensive, but at least we don't have to drive too far here to get anywhere!

ChuckH is right. Not only do the right-handed muffler bearings require a different type of gas lube, but as we drive on the left, all our roads are cambered off to the left to allow water to drain away when it rains. So we need RHD gas which is weighted with lead to the right to counteract the left-hand camber of our roads. But this did cause a few problems when driving in the other countries of Europe as they drive on the righthand side of the road, same as the US.

Although things have improved a little bit since they took the weight out of the petrol. This new type of petrol is called "unleaded"...

Not if you have one equipped with a backoff bearing selector valve switch.

Dunno about you paulgw, but when I lived in the UK we walked alot more than they do here in Lazy Bastard USA!

Hell, they even have drive through Off Licenses (Liquor Stores) and Banks. Understandable here in AZ where you really don't want to get out of your AC'd car in the summer months. But for the rest of ya'll who live in a more reasonable climate, you should be ashamed of your lazy bastardness

Nice to see a fellow Brit in here. Or are you a Yank in Brit disguise?

I also am assuming that the price of turn signal fluid must be on the rise. There has been a rash of drivers turn signals not working. And I can only assume that the cost of the fluid is going up since everyone always uses their turn signals.

Hey Jeffo - I can't speak for the rest of the country, but here in MASS, turn signal fluid has always been expensive. That's why no Mass driver ever has, or ever will, use a turn signal.

I am buying a 2006 Hyundai Sonata LX today. I might still trade the X in on it and buy a FJ40 as well.

Mine is already good-bye. traded it in for an '05 Mazda 3 Hatch back. Good bye to having to pay premium gas prices and only 15.5 MPH city/ 18 MPG Hwy. Not to mention $70 less per month in car payments!!!

Have fun with the 3! I had an '04 3 Hatch. It's a blast to drive and is good(but not great) on gas! It's actually the reason I got my X. Word of advice...don't drive in 4" of unplowed snow on top of ice in the 3 with the stock low-pro tires...not fun. Shoulda taken my jeep on that trip, but there was only supposed to be less than 1" of snow that day(ended with about 8").

Smart Move!

The thought has, reluctantly, crossed my mind in the past month or so. Dare I say, I've been checking out the '06 Honda Civic coupe. I still owe about 1/2 the loan amount on the X, so it all depends on what kind of deal I can get without getting screwed on the monthly payments.

In light of the current gas prices, we are buying our first X. Gas isn't the biggest of deals right now; it's mainly going to be for getting her to CSU and back(6mi round trip).
But it'll be much better for getting us to the slopes and whatnot than the Impala would be...

This is a funny thread.

Get rid of my Xterra? Not a chance.

Actually, now would be a good time to BUY an Xterra with all the deals they have going on SUV's right now. And they are practically giving away used SUV's now with all the people who are unloading them because of the gas prices. Don't sell! BUY!

i hear that........my job is only like a mile and half away from my apartment and I HAVE to get to work in the snow (NYC sanitation-Plows, salt spreaders, payloaders, etc.).........I only used a quarter of a tank this past week..........

Robb

I traded in a 2004 Mazda 3 Hatchback for my X....and I don't regret it one bit! The gas is not THAT much higher (I commute 1 mile to work, so I'm lucky) and the extra room is great. I can't wait to see some snow! I love the X

Tade in my X, are you crazy! If your concerned that much about gas mileage , you should not have purchased an X in the first place. My X gets me to remote surf spots in Baja, Mammoth mountain in the middle of a snow storm,and deep into Moab . The extra gas money is well worth it to me. No
disrespect to anyone out there.

Not us, it's no worse than my '92 Mercury! We just bought our Xterra 2 weeks ago, and the mpg didn't deter us!

I seem to notice that '05 owners are saying that their gas mileage is not that much worse from their old car. Not too many responses like that coming from 1st generation owners. I get about 15 MPG babying it and this is mostly highway miles. I can't wait to unload the OPEC mobile. Not to mention get something I can get up to highway speed without getting run off the road.

I just finished my "Baby-it" test. Not much improvement. The result was 13.8

But i guess thats an improvment from the 12.8 i was getting before. :rolleyes:

Only the rich can afford gas for this vehicle.

NEVER I LOVE MY X..it being my first car..i'm 16 and it the best, i hate paying premuim but i love the sound of the supercharger

english

With my SAS and 35's I am getting ~12 mpg. I am spending $50-$60 a week on gas, but no way I would ever sell it.

About $90 a week for gas. Maybe a little less. I get like 16 mpg now. I wonuldn't get rid of her, no way.

hey sorry i wrote that at 11 at night i was a little tired

Don't buy a Hybrid to try and save money on gas. If you do the numbers, you'll find out that the price difference you pay ($6,000-$10,000) will never equal how much gas you will purchase in the next 10 years! I was considering the Toyota Highlander Hybrid before I got the Xterra which I love so much more! I can post my calcuations if anyone is interested.

Just bought mine a month ago and one reason I bought it because the 20mpg I'm getting with it is better than the 15 I was getting with my Dodge Ram. I can drive further in my X on less gas than I could in my Dodge.

Never. I bought it at the end of July and haven't regretted it one bit. I drive 50 miles round trip/day to work and my wife drives 74 miles round trip so we are definitely aware of gas mileage. However the $800/month my wife ('05 Maxima) and I are spending on gas each month between us is well worth the fun and enjoyment we get from our vehicles.

Am I a "Yank in Brit disguise"? Gor blimey guv' what the bleedin' hell you tryin' ta say? I was at Violet's funeral, know what I mean? Sound's like b*ll*cks to me dunnit, you w*nker!!!

Good enough answer for ya, me old china?

Paulgw.

Thought this MSNBC/Newsweek article was interesting, pointing out the ever increasing popularity of the SUV dispite the rising costs associated with owning them. Seems the new sweet spot for the American rig is a slightly smaller, 20 MPG(ish) SUV.. Hmm, seems the 05 X just about fits that bill.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9556248/site/newsweek/

OK - So I currently have a 2003 Nissan 350Z. I am looking at switching over for numerous reasons.

- Live in WI no longer have place to store Z in WINTER.
- My 93 Ford Explorer is officially done and I need a new vehicle for winter.
- Feel I could get a new OFF-ROAD X at a good price.
- If I can get 20mpg on the highway then I'm good to go.

I sold my Civic 5 months ago. Even with the high prices, the reduction in car insurance and the 4000$ I have for it more than make up for the difference. I would have to save a lot of gas with the Civic before I get to 4000$ plus insurance. We were just driving one of the 2 cars anyway so it made sense at the time to get rid of the smaller and older vehicle.

I don`t regret the move, but I changed my driving style alot.

When I bought my first Xterra I knew that the mpg would be low. No one buys a 4wd for the gas mileage! The Xterra is exactly what it is supposed to be: a 4wd vehicle with great capabilities for off roading. Anyone who bought theirs for any other reason without considering the fuel cost only kidded themselves...
Enough of this crybabying already!