I'm sure you're aware of this but the H2 and H3 both have torsion sprung front suspensions.

Yeah, but how many heavily modified Xterras do you see on the road? Few to none.. in fact I have NEVER seen one in my area. Personally, I like having somthing that very few others do. I take pride in the fact that I don't drive "Modified Hummer #123198219212" or a "want to make me puke Modified F-X50 #2794063792789346891648962894".

But hey, thats just me.

I've never seen a modded H2 or Xterra on the road around me.

Anyhoo, I'll take a hummer in the front seat, and my X on the trial.

Thank you.

yes i know they are torsion bars, but im saying thats where in my opinion the X has an advantage. So much easier to lift, much cleaner belly etc.

For once, I agree with Claus.

Hey, what's the difference between a porcupine and a Hummer H2 (or H3)????

A porcupine has pricks on the outside!!

Xterra all the way. GM==crap

I don't agree with you at all...I am not heavly MODDED but I have wheeled with H2's before.... (drivers can make a differnce, but...)I once wheeled with a group and the H-2's had several problems, a few didn't leave the trail under their own power....I was strapped a few times, but I've never had a failure to the point I couldn't make it home....(knocking on wood)and they had two in the same day....(WTF???)I'm not saying that the X is elite or that the H2 is not capible, but I am saying that they didn't eat me for "lunch or dinner".

IF they eat us for Dinner, I hope they puke

what I find amazing is that, to the bulk of people on this board, a rutted out dirt road is considered offroading. In this situation only, an Xterra and a Hummer (H1, H2, or future H3) are still comperable.

But once you hit the real, true offroading, with ROCKS, MUD, HOLES, etc., unfortunately, the Xterra is NOT going to be able to keep up, in stock form.

There is no chance in hell, I don't care who's driving it, that a rig w/ 30" STREET tires from the factory, open diffs (front and rear), extremely poor gearing (2.02 t-case, abysmal tranny) is going to keep up with a vehicle that comes w/ 33" BFG A/T's, front and rear lockers, 4.x:1 t-case, and extremely high approach and departure angles. I don't care how long your schlong is, once you get on trail, penis size ain't gonna matter. The REAL equipment matters. And no, a stock Xterra can not keep up.

But is that a problem? No. Because you're comparing two vehicles that are in two different classes/leagues. That's like saying a porsche is faster than a camry. Well no shit.

Why would anybody compare two vehicles that are in different price ranges, different weight ranges, different target markets, different engine classes, different vehicle class, and yes, different suspension & offroad performance classes.

I personally think the H2 was a big pile of crap, compared to the H1. it's a big, bloated, nasty chevy taho, with different body panels. But the H3 is not out yet. But, one thing that you can bet your ass on: It will be more capable right off the lot, than an Xterra. But somebody, please explain it to me why THAT is anything worth talking about?

if not for any other reason, the H3 is ugly as hell. I can easily see it as a mall crawler for the upper middle class.

The 2005 xterra is cheaper, looks a hell of a lot better, and has more power, and im sure will be more reliable.

Nope.

From Four Wheeler:

Basically, it's not a Tahoe with a different body (though it does have a lot of standard GM components).

Your underlying point is accurate, however - and I do think the H3 versus '05 Xterra has more merit than a comparison between the Xterra and H2, as they will probably be cross-shopped at least some.

As oppose to the Xterra which is a mall crawler for the middle class?

It is true. This is like comparing apples and oranges. Were trying to compare a GM piece of crap that breaks down all the time, to a more reliable xterra. Plus, nobody buys the H2 to go off roading.. If you want to do that, you buy the one and only orginial Hummer, but they all break down and are always so unreliable.

Too funny. Xterra owners have to wake up. Compare your Xterras to Hyundai's or Kia's or mabye Yugos.

Step away from the crack pipe.

Every year we invite stock vehicles to wheel with us at Moab. Only the Rubicons and a few modded jeeps had the balls.

We've seen your Jamborees. Too funny. 4" ledges and you guys are bustin out the champagne and high fives.

STEP AWAY FROM THE CRACK PIPE.

Don't even try to compare with the H3. You're not even close.

RELIABILITY???? I've surfed your forum for months now. "Problems and Annoyances" thread? Pretty embarrasing stuff.

Back to reality: Nissan Xterra vs. Kia Sorento.....Close call.

If you guys have any members in Vancouver, Canada, e-mail me at hummerdennis@gmail.com

ANYTIME please feel free to school us if you have the balls.

We can even document with pics.

Mabye Jeeps or Toyotas we'd take seriously. But Nissans/Datsuns just for pure amusement.

And since I'm pretty sure none will step up to the plate, I might as well say it now,"Ya, I thought so".

Whats funny is you can buy two loaded X's with 100K b2b warrantys and still have $ left over to lift one 6 inches, put front and rear lockers, steel all round, 33's and more and spend less than yer H2.

And if you only bought one Xterra, I can't even come up with enough aftermarket equipment to make it cost close to what a Hummer does.

Which means we can pop Dom Perignon when we go over a 4" ledge because we don't have a $700 a month Hummer payment.

I agree, the H2 and H3 are just two more shitboxes by GM.

Hey fuckface go take yout H2 and drive it over a 4" ledge and watch the fucking wheels snap off. Then shove it up your fucking ass. Your fucking oversized pig of a fucking station wagon that gets 10 fucking miles to the gallon is nothing but a piece of mother fucking monkey shit. Go rockcrawling somewhere, snap the fucking steering gear, and see if you can be rescued by a fucking tow truck. NO, bitch - you'll have to fucking abandon your fucking $50,000 piece of shit.

Our Xterras can do a fuckload of a lot more than you fucking piece of fucking shit H2 will ever be able to do. it's nothing but a fucking oversized pig of a fucking station wagon that gets 10 fucking miles to the fucking gallon.

Do us all a favor and FUCK OFF!

Have a nice fucking day.

EDIT: ps. Go get a real fucking hummer if you wan't to talk shit. That's an H1 to you, asshole.

wow

I think that's 21 on the fuck meter... would that be FUCKJACK?

Damn Nexterra guys, who let nhXterraGuy85 off his leash?!? Down boy! Down!

Proves my point. ALL TALK, ITCHY VAGINAS.

You guys know shit if all you can come up with is a broken tie-rod, which is common in all wheelin.

Now go!!! Go wheelin with your Elements and Sorentos.

Or go bake me some pie.Whore.

Dennis, can we see your Moab pics?