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#69712 - 12/06/02 08:38 AM Re: New Calmini steering system...
Carlton McMillan Offline
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Xterraparts.com is taking preorders as well..
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#69713 - 12/06/02 08:50 AM Re: New Calmini steering system...
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I will buy it from Calmini prolly. I would have to pay tax at xterraparts.com.
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#69714 - 12/06/02 10:52 AM Re: New Calmini steering system...
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Just ordered mine from Xterraparts. I am psyched!
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#69715 - 12/06/02 12:52 PM Re: New Calmini steering system...
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Well, there went $500 of my money! :rolleyes: eek laugh
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#69716 - 12/06/02 01:43 PM Re: New Calmini steering system...
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Looks like it will be out for all you GOXer's laugh
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#69717 - 12/06/02 02:48 PM Re: New Calmini steering system...
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I wonder how much extra adjusters and bushings are going to cost. hmm...
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#69718 - 12/06/02 03:25 PM Re: New Calmini steering system...
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I sure will need that kit sooner or later.
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Brent has seen my truck, he would say more sooner then later.

I am just waiting my centerlink to die. I've only got 8500k miles on my X, I think it will hold out a while longer. [Sleep]

Kit looks great, Like all Calmini's kits
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#69719 - 12/06/02 04:03 PM Re: New Calmini steering system...
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Ordered mine from Calmini today. Putting my Calmini lift on Saturday I feel like Christmas is three days from now.
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#69720 - 12/06/02 04:53 PM Re: New Calmini steering system...
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Originally posted by chocalx:
I sure will need that kit sooner or later.
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Brent has seen my truck, he would say more sooner then later.

I am just waiting my centerlink to die. I've only got 8500k miles on my X, I think it will hold out a while longer. [Sleep]

Kit looks great, Like all Calmini's kits
cool
By the looks of your truck, I'd have to agree with Brent on that!
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#69721 - 12/06/02 08:48 PM Re: New Calmini steering system...
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Quote:
Originally posted by xoc:
Quote:
Originally posted by CharlieX:
[b]I wonder, will the steering stabilizer still work with that? Looks good, and the price is certainly nothing to complain about.
A new stabilizer bracket would need to be designed. Honestly, you probably wont need one.[/b]
Didn't you break an idler arm at the mount? I do think a brace will need to be made. This only replaces the arm... from what I ca tell anyway.
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#69722 - 12/06/02 10:49 PM Re: New Calmini steering system...
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Quote:
Originally posted by SEXterra:
Quote:
Originally posted by xoc:
[b]
Quote:
Originally posted by CharlieX:
[b]I wonder, will the steering stabilizer still work with that? Looks good, and the price is certainly nothing to complain about.
A new stabilizer bracket would need to be designed. Honestly, you probably wont need one.[/b]
Didn't you break an idler arm at the mount? I do think a brace will need to be made. This only replaces the arm... from what I ca tell anyway.[/b]
I don't think the idler arm brace was the part in question here, but the sterring stablilizer.
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#69723 - 13/06/02 05:17 AM Re: New Calmini steering system...
Carlton McMillan Offline
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Like was said earlier.. with this set up you may not need the stabilizer.. I am sure that someone will test to see if it will fit..
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#69724 - 13/06/02 07:10 AM Re: New Calmini steering system...
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Originally posted by Carlton McMillan:
Like was said earlier.. with this set up you may not need the stabilizer.. I am sure that someone will test to see if it will fit..
Hmmm it's not unlike the stock steering setup just built better...why wouldn't you want a steering stabilizer?
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#69725 - 13/06/02 07:25 AM Re: New Calmini steering system...
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Yeah - I don't get it. I'd still want a steering stabilizer, and hell, already have one - I plan to keep it.
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#69726 - 13/06/02 07:41 AM Re: New Calmini steering system...
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Originally posted by BoarderPhreak:
Yeah - I don't get it. I'd still want a steering stabilizer, and hell, already have one - I plan to keep it.
Me too. I can make a new bracket if need be I guess.
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#69727 - 13/06/02 08:38 AM Re: New Calmini steering system...
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I am curious about bumpsteer too. If it is tolerable I don't really care.
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#69728 - 13/06/02 08:43 AM Re: New Calmini steering system...
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With this talk of increased bumpsteer, that's all the more reason to have a steering stabilizer... But I see what y'all are saying I think - with the Calmini unit having a longer arrangement and the fact that you'd probably have to fab a new mount.

I don't know that I'd want to jeopardize on-road performance too much though, for the sake of bulletproofing everything. Decisions, decisions.
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#69729 - 13/06/02 08:45 AM Re: New Calmini steering system...
Carlton McMillan Offline
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I would guess that because..

"The kit also includes new replacement 4130 alloy tie rod adjustment links, that due to the system's change in configuration, are longer than stock. This added length helps reduce bump steer angle over stock"

...that bump steer would be less than that of a stock system. Perhpas I am incorrect. Sure if you have the stabilizer already then why not go ahead and install it. But what I was saying is that if it has LESS bump steer angle than a stock configuration then you may not need it as much.
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#69730 - 13/06/02 09:02 AM Re: New Calmini steering system...
Carlton McMillan Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by DesertRAT:
... your trucks WILL handle differently than they do with the stock dogbone design.
And you know this how? Have you been designing steering systems for any amount of time? Have you driven an Xterra with this system on it? What qualifies you to make that observation?

Quote:
Originally posted by DesertRAT:
To those who have had bushing trouble with the SLR setup - do you run Idler Arm braces? Not having one can increase the strain on those bushings.
Having a brace has nothing to do with the bushings.. that brace is there to offer a double sheer point for the idler arm pivot.
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#69731 - 13/06/02 09:05 AM Re: New Calmini steering system...
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Quote:
Originally posted by xoc:
Here are some bigger pictures and the release information...




I just looked at the pictures again, and i have a question

looking at tie rods there is no thread visible on the inside parts of them

how would alighment shop adjust them, it looks like they are maxed out in these pictures

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#69732 - 13/06/02 09:10 AM Re: New Calmini steering system...
Carlton McMillan Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by Olegkha:
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Originally posted by xoc:
[b]Here are some bigger pictures and the release information...




I just looked at the pictures again, and i have a question

looking at tie rods there is no thread visible on the inside parts of them

how would alighment shop adjust them, it looks like they are maxed out in these pictures[/b]
Those shots were taken right after they put the steering on at the shop.

Because of that they had not adjusted the center links on the tie rods yet. So in conclusion.. there is plenty of adjustment in the tie rod adjustors (For something with no adjustment you must be thinking of the AC Upper Control Arms laugh ).
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#69733 - 13/06/02 09:27 AM Re: New Calmini steering system...
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Oh God, here we go again... :rolleyes:

Carlton - how many different steering set ups have you had on your X that you can provide first hand information on?

Desert Rat's had 3 now. First hand experience and he can tell you where the weak points are. Hmmm....

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#69734 - 13/06/02 09:46 AM Re: New Calmini steering system...
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Originally posted by DesertRAT:
To those who have had bushing trouble with the SLR setup - do you run Idler Arm braces? Not having one can increase the strain on those bushings.
i do have the Calmini idler brace on my SLR setup and the bushings did wear but my centerlink held up. that's what matter's to me the most. the brace won't prevent the bushings from wearing any way. changing the bushings to bronze ones, which i'm getting from SLR today, to me is no big deal.

my truck handles and rides better with little to no bump steer after getting my alignment.

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#69735 - 13/06/02 09:54 AM Re: New Calmini steering system...
Carlton McMillan Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by SedonaX:


Desert Rat's had 3 now. First hand experience and he can tell you where the weak points are. Hmmm....
Who made those three steering systems?

AC - They did not even do proper testing before they sold them.

SLR -Theirs is of a different design

Who is the third?

And how can Desert Rat make usefull observations about steering components aside from saying what broke on someone elses design?

And for that matter he has not used the Calmini system so how can he make such a general statement?
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#69736 - 13/06/02 10:21 AM Re: New Calmini steering system...
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The third...duh - the piece of crap stock system.

He WAS doing testing for AC. He knew that. Not many people drive their truck as hard as he does. Who better to test it.

He was making a generalized statement based on his experience with steering and the weak points.

I'll be anxious to see some reports on how Calmini's steering does. Anyone ever heard if the t-case gears are ever going to be available? If it takes as long for you all to get your steering as it has for the t-case gears to be available - well, guess we'll be having this same conversation same time next year. [Wave]

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