if you're buying a new car (or used), don't go to a dealership until you've checked out this site....
www.carbuyingtips.com (the most amazing and informative site to help you buy a car without being screwed....)

Definately some good information contained on that site. I employed that information when I bought my X, and completely baffeled the salesperson. I delt with the sales manager for the most part after I started in on taking a bite out of their dealer hold back. Makes you wonder what a dealership did to the owner of carbuyingtips.com to encourage him to undertake this "crusade".

Two thumbs way up for that site. I used it when we bought our X, my dealer didn't try anything on me but it was nice to know what to look for. Great info on there, plus I enjoyed him ripping the US (GM, Ford) car makers as they seem to try snowing everyone that walks in the door.

highly recommended, if for nothing else the excel files he created.

Jim