No convicing for me, mine is all for the offroad. Hmm...Bar you say.. Now when you say 4.5 hours, do you mean to Shamokin or Harrisburg area? Cause if it is to Shamokin then I would say we can meet you their around 11:30 or so cause its going to take me 1:18 to get up there my self.

Let me know cause if I can't get enough to go then I will cancel the trip, since it is Taladega weekend.