FYI eastern Sierra, Bodie, Mono Lake, mammoth/bishop etc was the other area that some in our club are the most interested in.

I'm fine with either venue; to me Santa Barbara would be the more civilized choice with no real challenging 4x4 trails but the beach, restaurants, town, missions, etc. while the eastern sierra would be the more remote, rugged with the wide open spaces, richer in geology, beautiful lakes, large mountain terrain and more challenging trails.

If somebody can give me a census from NCCX about the eastern sierra with the proposed date(s) such as Oct 10-13 then I'm sure we could work something out

Of course since you guys know the area better (never been wheeling in the area myself) assistance with the plans & trail bossing would be very helpful. Are there a couple of lead people from NCCX that we can work with?

BTW about the Rubicon yeah I'll be taking my built SAS 90 Pathy and maybe my X also if I have time to work on it this summer.

Brian