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Originally posted by electrobuzz:
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Originally posted by Bobby_X:
[b]Apparently, the pope is trying to pass (which I don't think the term is correct, because the pope is infalliable, meaning god talks through him, so what he says goes, without question) a thing that puts Mary at the same level as Jesus, meaning you can pray to either one, meaning you can ask/do whatever of Mary as done with Jesus.
Pope John Paul II may have written an epistle stating the benefits of praying to Mary and perhaps commentary on her purity. From the New Testament and in Catholic doctrine, she and Jesus are the only human beings conceived without original sin. In that sense, they are the same.[/b]
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Jesus WAS born with original sin - he was baptized by John. Mary was the only one born without original sin. (Though I guess you could argue that Adam and Eve were, too - as there was no original sin until they ate the apple).
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