I'm sticking to my guns. If that makes me an idiot in some peoples' minds, so be it. If this was as cut and dried as the WFers make it out to be, there wouldn't be such a debate about it.

The WFers see the debate as them (superior) and the rest of us (too dumb to understand). It's not that simple.

Tell me this...how would this scenario be different than a seaplane trying to take off against a current? If the current accelerates to match the plane's speed, the plane will remain stationary and not take off, correct?

BTW, speed is a tricky word in the scenario. I take "matching the plane's speed" to mean exactly counteracting the speed the plane would attain under normal conditions. The "belt wouldn't move if the plane stayed in place" crowd obviously doesn't see it that way.