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Originally posted by NY Madman:
Your attempt to compare gay bath houses with whore houses in Nevada is totally ridiculous. You are so desirous of making homos look like straights it is beyond sickening.
Why is it ridiculous? You think single guys are the only ones visiting them?

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You want recent data relating to gay promiscuity. It is hard to find because it's not PC and it offends people like you who love the gays. I do remember reading about a Dutch study that was released a while back. The results were alarming and no American press outlet ran with the story. I don't have time to search for the story now.
And comparing Europe to the US is ridiculous, too. Everyone knows Europe is a much more open, tolerant society.

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I'm sure there are plenty of bisexual men out there. Someone has to be infecting all these women. They are not infecting each other.
So if Magic Johnson's wife got it from him, does that make Magic a bisexual?

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You say you have gay friends who are not promiscuous. How do you know? You asked them. If you are a straight guy what makes you think they would tell you the truth?
Because I happen to be a friend, not an adversary. I do not condemn them for being gay. They know they can trust me.

Example? One couple has been together since high school. About 12 years.

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How do you wind up with gay friends anyway?
Met a number of them in high school, met a number of them in college, and have met a few at work.

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I couldn't be friends with anyone who didn't share similar values.
Well, that's just sad. There are a number of people in MAXC that I'm sure I am FAR away from sharing similar values. I still consider them friends.

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The only exceptions I could see if it was someone you knew since childhood or something then all of a sudden tells you they are gay as an adult. Even then mosts guys would back off on the friendship somewhat. That would be a normal reaction. Are you sure you didn't mean acquaintances such as people you have to work with or whatever?
Again...sad. If someone you knew since childhood, who you knew well, told you they were gay, you'd back off on the friendship? Some friend you are. Would it ever occur to you that maybe they felt like they could trust you? And now you have completely blown that out of the water.

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Straight guys just don't make friends with gay people.


As I don't go asking people if they are gay the first time I meet them, it's a non-issue. I don't go searching for gay people to befriend. If I happen to be friends with them (be it 20 years or 2 weeks) and then find out they are gay...so what? Doesn't change them one iota.

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If there is any friendship on some level it is always based on something external like a work relationship or a maybe they are neighbors or something like that.
Or a friend of a friend, or whatever. Work, neighbors, church and school are not the only way to meet people.

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You remind me of people who used to think it was chic to say "I have black friends". Only now the PC chic thing for liberals is to say you have gay friends. What do you do... tape "Will and Grace" for them when they are running late from the bath house or something. Sorry not buying it.
Well, whatever. I don't go around telling people, "hey, I have gay friends!" The point is, I don't give a shit whether they are or not. It doesn't affect me or my life whatsoever.

Yeah, I tape "Will and Grace" for them....well, except for the Log Cabin group... I tape Sean Hannity for them. :rolleyes:
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