Since this whole thread pretty much evolved into a pissing contest, I will just say that I am glad that no body got hurt, and that Axle's Xterra will be back on the road soon. Ice is bad shit. Really, no one should have been out driving in that mess. Oh, one more thing: General Grabbers tires suck major ass. I should have ditched the '02's tires as soon as I rolled off the lot. Had some major shit happen around here last week, rain, then ice, then rain, and a bunch of fucking mud. Try getting to work at about 3 mph in slick ass red-dirt mud found here in central Alabama.

My office is undergoing some work around the facilities, and there are two ways to get in. One, is backed up 10 minutes. The other is an unpaved, nasty, pigtrail that only the brave and trucks generally access. So, I take it. Those tires never stuck, but they slid all over the place. I doubt 4wd would have helped one bit.

Anyway, let's all take care in our winter driving fun.