Aight... So I've read through the entire thread, reference links and all, and my input would be this... Bottom line... No one got hurt... No one got killed... And the only thing done was damage to Axle's X... I can understand both sides to this... Ian and other members make great points as well as Axle and the people who were actually there... Just add another learning notch to the belt...

But then again, who the fuck would listen to this fool (me) who's only got a 4x2 and doesn't offroad, right?! ... Flame suit on...

Sorry to hear 'bout you're mis-hap Axle... Glad to see no one got hurt except your truck... Tread lightly my friend!!!

- Air B