If I can not see the ground where I am driving then I WANT A SPOTTER. I am happy to say that I will NEVER be on a run with Ian again (or be allowed to for that matter). I thought that was the point was off-roading TOGETHER. So why don't you go and drive off by yourself? I am sure we would be happy to let you go.... And unlike yourself...if you had trouble I am sure we would come to assist.

And how many runs has RMXC had? Now compare that to the number that SCCX has had... Also take into account that you HAVE NOTHING in Colorado as we do in California for varying terrains. You only have moutains and rocks there. We have EVERYTHING HERE. So get your fat ass out here and see how the real world (if you can call California real) is and not Ian's little narrow minded opininated glass house World.

LOGAN

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Originally posted by Chris / CCX:
[b]With Ian as the ringleader there is now this sense of fear that if any kind of mishap is posted, a gang of couch potato goons will descend on you with no compassion and no sense of humor.
I try to have a sense of humor, but I'm just tired of seeing this stuff. I have wheeled with a lot of people on this board, and I have my secret list of people who have no idea what they are doing. People I don't want to associate with, or drive with because they are a hazard or hindrance to people around them, especially at the large events or runs like those I host every year.

Sadly, it's a very long list, full of people who can't drive over any obstacle without a spotter, people who drive dangerously, people who have no common sense. People who are supposed to be improving their off-road driving skills, but aren't.

I talk to a lot of people off this board too, people who I respect, people who are skilled, people who confirm my thoughts about the people on my list because they have first hand knowledge as well.

This message board is for people to learn about their Xterras, and learn about safe 4 wheeling, but every couple of weeks I see something stupid and preventable like this and it just makes me wonder if it's worth the effort.

I lead all the trail runs for RMXC, and I lead trail runs at GOX and goneMOAB every year and there has never been an incident with any of them (with the exception of Weelit, but he was showing off) because I won't allow it.

I want all the club leaders and the people who are supposed to be showing the new people the ropes to step up and quit fucking around. A 4000 lb truck is not something to be playing with so casually or wrecklessly.[/b]
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LOGAN
'00 Frontier CrewCab SE 4x4
'99 Volvo V70XC AWD Cross Country