I'm getting old, I don't remember Toderick backing in to me on the trail. Not saying it didn't happen, I just have a crappy memory. I remember using my winch to pull him out once and I remember jumping him off at West-X. That's about it. I haven't been able to do any SCCX stuff in a long time. The Army keeps me away. I felt guilty when I read the SCCX page and saw they had won club of the year, so I went to Odessa and picked up garbage to make me feel a little bit better. I think you guys are great and will be on the next run that I can. There will always be things that other people do that irritate us. I always try to see it from the other guy's point of view. I know I can be irritating too. I do try hard to get along with everyone. I guess it's just my Army induced team ethic. I just hope all of this arguing has a positive end result.