Last Post as, i have just been checking this thread waiting for your reply anyway...

WARNING, THIS IS BASICLY A NOVEL, if you don't have a bit of time, don't ewven bother trying to read this

no one else really, and it isn't even a vendetta, its just a long line of stupid shit, i just seem to be the one who deals with it most... that or other people enjoy dealing with it.

well you can probably add yourself to the list, cause you always seem to use revisionist history, or conveniently forget details when shit like this comes up.

you were not the only person i talked to that day, and if you had actually read this thread you would know where the info came from.

that was very nice of you to do that, and i still appreciate it. I never put a hatchet in your back, so to speak. In fact I clearly stated that if anyone PMed me about the mess, that they should also PM you to get another side to the story... guess you saved them the time.

you are so fucking stupid... this is what i meant, conveniently forgetting detaisl...

I posted mainly at work during the day when that argument was going on... while MY WIFE was at home... let me give you a second to figure it out...
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OH WOW, "MyBlackX", as i told you before WAS MY FUCKING WIFE, ya genius.
She vowed to never come back to XOC after that.

as for usurping the board... no, i just figured you guys would operate like most clubs and have elections...

you were clear that "you had spent too much money, and the only way you would step down was if the club paid you back"

Greedy bastard.

The only time i had conversations with myself was apparently when i talked to you.

I never violated TOS

Hey Fuck you. If you have a probelm with things i say on this board... fine... but if you have a probelm with the fact that my then girlfriend and i did not see a reason to get married(due to religios beliefs) before our kids were born then just be a fuckin man and say it... your a prick. we are married now, i hope that is okay with you, sir.

I explained "MyBlackX", the actual one that pissed ya all off was "LawlessX", I did make one post on the SCCX board using the screen name "LawlessX" AFTER getting banned... just to know I could(its an IT guy pride thing) but it was not inflammatory and in fact i just inquired politely about the club. I have always freely admitted that.

well, there ya go... is it so odd that my wife didn't like the shit going on, the way i was being treated for pointing out SCCX's lack of 4x2 friendly runs at the time... that she didn't want to "ride along", honestly look at her post, its pretty obvious from the wording(not just spelling) that it wasn't me

1st i pulled down the site yesterday at CCX's request.

READ THIS THREAD YOU IGNORANT FOOL, i have said several times IN THIS THREAD that i have had to hold my tongue and not say thing... or in this case, put on a "game face", sort of "play nice".

your almost right here, and it was the worst experience i have ever LEARNED FROM, since then i never go out alone... HOWEVER, I was driving along, there was a bit of snow on the side of the trail... not much just little patches every 50-100 feet... i round a corner and proceed up a shady side of the mountain... there was no visible ice, it just looked like some of the snow was on the trail... my forward progress stopped... as it was indeed ice... but it had nothing to do with going too fast. just lack of familiarity with snow/ice.

If that happened in anyway you might have a point?

I think you mean the time i got stuck on a hill... Ned964 was pulling up to winch me up the hill, but for some reason parked behind me... my truck slid... i never "backed into" anyone... but again READ THE FUCKING THREAD... i already openly told about the incident.

so much bullshit here, i edited some

No, there was a very clear disclaimer on the WestX site... and posted here... However it is not about liability it is about common courtesy for the people on the trail with YOU... i wasn't with them on doran, but i was there that night to try and help them. while axle sat at the camp and toolbox drove back to camp.

countless hundreds have been in the mines... I'd say 50 with me in the last 15 years... and ONE CASE of menengitis... there is no proof thats where it came from...

revisionist history again... my complaint was that mojave road was happening, not that you were not allowing 2wd's... as i recall i took a couple months off from the club following my fathers august death, in Dec. i tried to come back, 4x4 only run. Jan. 4x4 only run, Feb, 4x4 Only...

i forget the exact months, but it was 4 consecutive 4x4only runs... so i was pissed, i spoke up that maybe your club meetings shouldn't be held at lunch on trail runs...

most of these issues have now been fixed by SCCX.

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I don't remember aiden's toy happening like that... i remember logan volunteering to drive it out in the back of his truck... cause it was not a small item.

and as far as i knew i didn't leave anything in '02... I guess its possible it fell out of my truck... btu seems unlikely.

regardless my change in trail attitude and tread lightly really has happened gradually, and i only adopted the trash bag thing, since participating in a trail cleanup with AXZC.
(the azxc trail cleanup was started BTW, after logan pulled his usual stupid shit on a run with them and was caught by a ranger)

it was both, it was the dichotomy of being "club of the year" and being "XOC's most dangerous club"

i think there have been some facts confused over time, but regardless this will never be settled... you think i set out to kill SCCX, when i really just wanted it back to the 4x2 friendly club it was. since then i think most of the shit that has happened ands the attitudes involved are still related to that...

as your comment that you would deal with me "hopefully for the last time" shows... but honestly, i don't want to feel the need to point out your guys errors either... so hopefully everyone learned form axle's mistake.