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Originally posted by off2cjb:

Moby, you claim to know Jefferson, then you do know the truth. Now, is your liberal side able to admit it.
This, coming from someone who thought Hamilton wrote the Constitution and Jefferson rewrote it.

(Jefferson wasn't at the event, by the way...he was in France at the time.)

If you think you know the truth, then explain this first draft of the First Amendment from Madison:

The Civil Rights of none shall be abridged on account of religious belief or worship, nor shall any national religion be established, nor shall the full and equal rights of conscience be in any manner, nor on any pretext infringed. No state shall violate the equal rights of conscience or the freedom of the press, or the trial by jury in criminal cases

Notice he says "in any manner nor on any pretext."

Notice he also says "No State shall."

Do you know WHY Jefferson wrote the letter to the Baptists? They wanted him to declare a day of fasting. He refused to.

I know enough about Jefferson and Madison to know what they meant.

You obviously don't.
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"Nature has constituted utility to man the standard and test of virtue. Men living in different countries, under different circumstances, different habits and regimens, may have different utilities; the same act, therefore, may be useful and consequently virtuous in one country which is injurious and vicious in another differently circumstanced" - Thomas Jefferson, moral relativist