I'd like to post my observation. It's the same arguments by the same people; it's just a different day. You guys go at it over and over and over. Nobody is going to change the other guy's views. All you accomplish is consuming XOC bandwidth and storage. Plus you get angrier and angrier with each other; more disdain, more contempt. I'm *not* asking "can't we all get along." Why don't you get a hobby and . I know I don't have to read this stuff. Flaming me won't accomplish anything either, but you're welcome to do so.