Yeah thanks for input guys. I have no idea why it is not working. Oh well, I saw it in person so I guess I can wait until I figure it out.

It really sucked on that hill. We had muddy tires, wet rocks and crater had developed in the middle of the hill.

Deranger and I made it up last time we were in the Black Hills so I know he and I can make it up. That day was just not our day.