So there you have it..

Also of some interest.. Many of the passes are at or about 12k. So remind me again why someone would want to take a 2wd up there?

Why inconvinence the group you are with because you are not willing to ride with someone who has a 4wd.

Having to worry if the 2wd with your group is going to make it over the bumps on the trails or risk them injuring themselves or the trail due to them needing to go faster just to make it up a trail is not worth it. End of story.

If someone feels the need to do that, do it on your own time. Don't drag a group down with you. And if you are that experiance of a 4wd'er then why in the hell would you not want to have a 4wd with you?? The challenge of 2wd?

Is this world getting so PC that we have to invite EVERYONE to an event even if they are not properly prepaired? (4wd)