Ok, so lets say we don't have to go rock crawling. I'd have fun just wheeling on some regular trails in the PB or out in PA for the day. The other groups have BBQ's, mod days, etc. I KNOW you'd all be into that. It is more expensive..I had a jeep. My Jeep could probably rip my X apart off road. I still have more fun in the X than the Jeep regaurdless. It's not about money (maybe because I have none) it's just about having fun. I like to learn as much as possible from people like TJ, etc (sorry if I missed anyone) ..It's NJ people will understand if were not out at places like MOAB..