XOC is right. The two years before I stopped racing R/C offroad cars that was the greatest think going for handling. Long suspension arm and narrow bulkheads = distance between pivot points. The cars could be sprung lighter and lighter weight oil in the shocks. Mainly because of wheel travel at the wheels. Look at Baja 500 trucks and you have a good idea. Now, if I could only get someone to weld that up on my X!!! [Spit]