You should be able to edit your own thread each time you want to add to it rather than posting 3 times... anyways, if you are going to do serious offroading then the OR skid plates are not heavy duty enough. They are there as a good starting point, its nice to have them YES, but do not consider them beefy enough for serious wheeling.

The SE and S do not have them... if you are going to wheel then buy aftermarket ones rather than the OR OEM ones. That's money better spent.