speeking of deep mud.... i just got stuck in some today... i was trying to go across a trail that was partially wet lands... it looked dry and sturdy... then once i got ontop of it my X fell through into about 10 inches of mud... my tires were soft but they are still just not getting the job done... i really need some AT's... anywho... i did get out with some help of two friends yanking on a tow strap and rocking it back and forth... ill never go on that trail again though... really got my adrenaline going.