hey guys thanks for all your aplies but im gonna have to prove u wrong about taking ur 2x4 in the mud that is all i do hear in AZ and i have not once gotten stuck and i have done some crazy stuff i have even gotten water in and i havent gotten stuck so that just proves that a 2x4 X can do alot of petty good thinks but i do have to agree about going throught rocks and boulders i dont think a 2x4 can pull that stuff off. But i bet it can do some. Thanks

Matt