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Originally posted by NY Madman:


Regarding the others here in this thread who are making ridiculous claims that socialism is somehow a good thing, you ought to be ashamed of yourselves.


I never said it was good...just that it can work. If anyone should be ashamed, it's those who advocate letting those less fortunate to fend for themselves...in other words, "fuck them if they can't afford it."

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If you think it is so wonderful, I'm sure you are more than welcome and have sufficient freedom to leave the US and enjoy socialism in the countries that practice it.
Ah yes...should have known THAT argument would come out eventually.

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Socialism is unsustainable. It is also antithetical to the entire concept of the American experience. Socialism disregards and loathes the individual in favor of the collective. In favor of the state.
Tell you what...let's get rid of the military hospitals, too. Screw the soldiers. If they can't afford insurance...tough shit.

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The prime reason for "American exceptionalism" has been because our society is based on the individual and not the collective. That is what has made America the most superior society to be developed by man so far.
Depends on what you mean by most superior. Strongest militarily...sure. Highest standard of living...hardly.

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People that advocate socialism hold a deep disdain for their fellow man
What a load of bullshit. People who advocate socialism - want to help their fellow man. People who advocate unlimited capitalism...THOSE are the ones who don't give a shit about their fellow man.

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It has been correctly said that a person's love and admiration for the state and the collective power of the state is directly congruent to their contempt for their fellow man.
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"Nature has constituted utility to man the standard and test of virtue. Men living in different countries, under different circumstances, different habits and regimens, may have different utilities; the same act, therefore, may be useful and consequently virtuous in one country which is injurious and vicious in another differently circumstanced" - Thomas Jefferson, moral relativist