Mobycat - Springfield? That'd definitely be worse. But I graduated back in the late 80's, so yes - Dayton itself was a shithole, but the suburbs still weren't that bad. Now, it's pretty much all bad.

NYMadmanI'm not sure on the manufacturing part, but is it a tax structure/union thing you're referring to? Just asking as Cbus seems to be home to all sorts of businesses - but it's more of a white-collar HQ mecca than anything.